Set Improvements are Needed

[Sackett-11374]

@DarkHelmet-1157

As for 350% ED on the Weapon, then what about the 2-3 Sockets? You’d have a Mace that feasibly can hit 470% Enhanced Damage with three 40/15 Jewels or an unheard of 500% with 3 Ohm runes. I merely took the +40-62 Damage and converted it to 200% ED(which is what 40-62 happens to be for a Jagged Star) and with the Sockets, a player can feasibly hit 320%(which is respectable) or at most 350%. You have Enhanced Damage that is greater than the most popular Runewords(BotD/Death/Phoenix), much less every Unique Weapon in the game save for a 5 x Ohm Runemaster.

Well, BotD gives double the attack speed (+60%), -25% Target Defense, Prevent Monster Heal, Poison Nova 20 casting every other time you kill a monster, higher Life Steal and Mana Steal, and is Indestructible so is made in Ethereal weapons. Death gives a 25% chance of casting Glacial Spike (freezing enemies around you), 50% Crushing Blow, high Deadly Strike chances (0.5 per Character Level) and is Indestructible so is made in Ethereal Weapons. Phoenix grants a Redemption Aura, giving you massive life and mana regeneration, Ignore Target Defense, and 20% Deadly Strike.

And all of those can be made in the base of your choice and worn with your choice of Helm, Boots, and Body Armor. Allowing things like Fortitude, Harlequin Crest, War Travellers. Opportunity cost is a major part of sets. Still, I’m okay with reducing the Enhanced Damage on the weapon to 250% Damage. I think that’s fine considering that the set bonus no longer has the 350% off weapon damage, which you need to take into account, and you’re not. Aldur’s weapon is really weak and the primary thing holding this set back, and it just made sense to move the ED on the set bonus to the weapon to make it viable.

@DarkHelmet-1157

Thing is 250% ED on Chest Armor is too much. Highest roll on Unique is 220%(Shafstop, Toothrow, Steel Carapace, Templar’s Might) so I figure 150-200% ED would be the sweet spot given that players can upgrade it from Chaos Armor back to Shadow Plate(I went conservative with 100%).

High defense is not a very important stat in LoD, so fine, reduce it to 150% if that makes you feel better.

@DarkHelmet-1157

For Griswold, not only do Paladins have those 3 Auras I mentioned, but it rolls with 12 Sockets, including 4 on the Weapon itself. If a player wanted to, they could plop Eth runes into it and gain -100% Target Defense(not that they would but just saying it’s an option). Meaning the need for Attack Rating isn’t as critical as you think it would be. If they go the Elemental route as you mentioned, they’ll almost certainly have Conviction Aura. Conviction benefits Elemental but also Melee by making enemies easier to hit, hence Attack Rating isn’t as crucial to the Set’s success.

On this I have to push back though. How exactly is a Paladin running Holy Shock/Freeze/Fire supposed to also run his Conviction aura? Perhaps you are thinking of the Auradin who uses Dream or Dragon with his Conviction aura, but a Paladin using Griswald’s can’t wear any of those can he? Nor are the sockets a reasonable answer, since the only reason an Elementalist Paladin is going to use Griswald’s is so he can fill it with faucets and maybe a few Ber for Crushing Blow.

@Cramus-1403

Its important to understand that the class sets are not exactly meant to be for all builds, but for the proposed build. Otherwise Ik wouldnt have a 2 hander, mavina a bow, and so on.

@Cramus-1403

BTW mavina is the third best class set of the game, it only needs pierce, and its a really good elemental set in general.

While it’s certainly true that sets are designed for certain builds, that doesn’t mean they can’t be made as flexible as possible. Mavina’s is clearly meant for a Bowazon, but that doesn’t mean it should be pigenholed to a Frost Maiden. Nor do adding Fire damage bonuses really overpower the set because most builds are one or the other. It does make this a good set for a hybrid Bowazon, but isn’t that fine? Hybrid builds are underpowered compared to the specialist so I don’t think that’s a big problem. Is there a more specific criticism of that flexibility being overpowered in some way?

Compare this to Aldur’s which isn’t even designed for either type of Druid build. Hence my focus of it on a Shapeshifter Hybrid (since that’s the closest build it seemed to fit).

Staff mods in particular ought to be more focused on a variety of builds that can work with the set. Often utility skills are worth favoring.

@Cramus-1403

You didnt mention one of the most important set changes BTW, trang’oul vampire should use same frames as necro.

Added. You are right that Trang-Oul’s needs help with the Faster Cast issue.

Also added Natalya’s since it also needs buffing.

I think Tal Rasha’s and Immortal Kings are pretty well off, Aldur’s is the one that needs the most help though.

@Cramus-1403

I think you are going the right direction, but changing to much about many things that really dont need it, just mini changes.

Some sets need only minor changes, like Arctic, Berserkers, Deaths, Immortal Kings, etc. Others need a major rework, like Milabrega’s, Heaven’s Brethren, Hwanin’s Majesty. Are there specific sets you think should have fewer changes?