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Directly attack the RMT sites.
Directly attack botters, so that the supply is eliminated.
Directly attack the advertisement bots in game so people can’t find their sites as easily.

Then you’re eliminated some of their attention, and maybe forced some of their domains to have to move or be taken down, as well as eliminated their supply, so that if someone comes to the site, they can’t get what they want and give up. While it might not eliminate 100% of RMT, it attacks only the things that abuse it, and doesn’t require eliminating a feature many enjoy.

All of which involves spending time and resources… AKA Blizzard bleeding red ink.

CEOs and shareholders don’t like red ink.

I’m just curious is there any way to make anti-cheat detector?
Like anything that would detect using 3rd party software ?
Also those spaming bots in chats are annoying… you can block them but you block 1 than there jump out 2 new :slight_smile:
Hopefuly for community and old players like me you will try to fix that issue and bring this game back where it was.

That would be kinda easy. A.I. could easily detect and auto ban chat bots for instance.

I’m sure it could if it were sophisticated enough. And eventually this will be a widespread reality. Have you seen what a highly capable AI compute card costs? You can easily drop $20K on just one card. Is Microsoft/Blizzard going to spill the money needed for a capable AI to help combat a problem for a 24 year old game which won’t result in profits? Nope.

AI tech needs more time to mature along with the reduction of costs. Of course NGREEDIA is vacuuming up all they can… So 5-10 years after the AI bubble bursts, we might start seeing effective AI put to use for anti-cheat.

It will also result in the cat and mouse game evolving into the battle of AI vs AI.

Why a new season? You know not even the few diehard D2 streamers care anymore.

This game is dead due to mismanagement, all that was needed was a couple GMs to manually check out potential botters/cheaters & hand out on-the-spot bans, an official trading platform and a personal loot/SSF mode.

But why, you can’t risk a 25 year old game that was created by an entirely different team being better than D4. Bad publicity.

Yes and no and maybe, there is no way of telling my best guess is the bots would be running anyway. Most of the bots sell their stuff on D2jsp and u cant legally turn ur forum gold into real money again so most of them are just forum gold hoarders wich is not much different than high rune hoarders. But i know one thing though, its a hell of a lot easier to stop the bots than rmt thats for sure. All it really takes is for blizzard actually ban them, only problem is this costs time and money and we all know that is not gonna happen when they cant profit from this

False. I’m not saying there aren’t botters who use JSP, but you’re full of it if you think any of the real botters use JSP. All they want is straight cash purchases and their only use for JSP would be for actively trading to shift inventory, not bank forum gold lol.

You’re right on the latter part, I mean they at least tried to ban them sometimes in legacy, but they make no attempt now. Even though they wouldn’t even have to be good or great at it and could make a profit doing so. I think they just don’t want to pay attention to something they don’t care about. Even if they were to cycle banning botters every ladder, it still won’t be as profitable as focusing on the next new game to rip off consumers.

Yeah like i said yes no and maybe. I dont consider myself an expert on botting since this is not really my thing, i actually like playing the game myself all i know is its easier to ban bots on ur own server than trying to shutdown rmt and 3rd party websites that u have no control of

1000% correct. I don’t think they could dent most RMT sites, they’d move, change name, be hosted in a foreign country that doesn’t care, their owners could be in a foreign country that doesn’t care, not to mention they might anonymously own that entity and keep themselves hidden.

For sure Blizzard buying a few both subscriptions and figuring out how to detect/ban them would be the easiest thing they could do. Or even implement some sort of basic AI pattern recognition and have the accounts flagged for review. One person can just check in on people and drop the hammer all day. I only say don’t have AI directly ban people because they already tried that to a certain extent and false flagged some trav/pindle runners.

f there are logs of the total ingame time for each account, it is possible to do this using an Excel filter, there is no need for artificial intelligence.

It’s just a matter of applying ban waves more frequently. but we know they didn’t do it, selling keys is their profit.

Only problem is u cant really ban people based on ingame time only, these kind of games have a fair amount of nolifers and streamers who spend a huge amount of hours even without botting, they already tried this and got several people banned for running thousands of runs in a row but some of them actually had recordings of their runs and themself playing the runs.

As unfortunate as it sounds, this is very true.

However, playtime can certainly serve as one of the multiple statistical points an AI would use to profile players to contrast against profiles of bots.

Humans get tired over time, bots don’t.
When humans get tired, they are more prone to making mistakes, they are more sluggish with their actions…
Humans have to take care of biological functions that keep them alive. Bots don’t.

Humans are creatures of habit. There are many measurable statistics that can be profiled through simply spending time playing the game along with the input of your commands through your controllers and/or the inputs from a bot to control your character from the servers point of view.

It’s a perfect job for AI.

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I would say like someone mentioned earlier, it has to be a combination of human and AI + looking for patterns in the different bot progams so the AI knows what to look for and how to detect the bots

Nvm
20 chars needed.

The Human portion of it would be maintaining/upgrading the AI hardware and keeping it trained with the latest cheats, along with handling appeals.

The AI portion of detection and automatic banning would of course be hinged on the AI being 99.9+% accurate.

Ill have to disagree on this. People have different opinions on what makes a game boring and i dont mind playing a game where everything is not handed to u within a few days of playing, in fact this is one of the reasons i keep playing this game and dont play D3 or D4. There are multiple reasons why this game has a lot of bots and rmt but its not because of the “hard grind” . One of the main reasons is blizzard doesnt do much about the bot issue and only has very few ban waves . Another reason is the fact that there is no official easy to use trade site and ingame trading is very tedious in D2R which kind of forces people to use 3rd party websites if they want access to easy trading.

I have played Path of Exile pretty much since release and they have very few problems with rmt and bots even though its a trade game and also very grindy, The difference is they actually ban bots pretty fast and they have the best official trade site which allows u to list ur items directly from ur stash without having to leave the game or go to the website, u just right click the item in ur stash and set the price and it automatically gets listed on the trade site. This easy to use trading eliminates most competition.

And no this game doesnt need higher droprates and most of us doesnt want to go back to the old stale meta of 99% Light sorc and hammerdins

Nvm
20 chars needed.

It beats 100% Mosaic.

Not sure exactly what u mean but if i had to choose between what we have now or go back to the old stale meta with 99% hammerdin and light builds to get rid of mosaic then i must say ill rather play with what we got now. I still hope that some day they will remove that mosaic thing from the game though cause it definitely doesnt belong in D2 but im just having more fun now with some of the off meta builds that suddenly became viable/playable on hell difficulty so i really cant see myself going back to LoD meta. I really dont want to have to play the same 2-3 chars every ladder once again