I see numerous callings for no nerfs. I think that kind of thinking is one-dimensional and is not healthy from a game design standpoint. There is both nerfing and buffing, both of which are equally important and are essential elements that establish an equilibrium within the game.
In certain instances, nerfing is the best course of action. For example, bringing overpowered runewords, namely Spirit, Grief and Enigma down a notch to achieve relative balance.
Most detrimental course of action is taking the approach of only buffing across the board to contend with unbalanced elements, which introduces power creep and has a devastating ramification to the overall experience. Last point is nerfing with a measured hand is healthy, keyword measured.
have you honestly ever tired playing a cold orb Sorc on anything Players 5 or above? Even with a skill level at around 40ish, the clear speed is WAY WAY slower than other classes. If you do a Blizzard/ Orb combo, you can actually have fun now with a sunder charm. You can actually enjoy all the content if you like, although it’s still faster to skip things that were originally cold immune.
The math has been done by the Devs, kids overreacting to things they don’t understand as well as they think they do is all I see here.
I would argue that the Cold Sorc feels about right now, and that other classes should be brought in line. This would involve buffing some skills and nerfing others- not a power creep. But I’m not a dev and don’t have all the numbers in front of me. So I will refrain from arm chair executive declarations, which similar to others here, I have no business making.
The shield is fine since it usually needs 35% to be good, and gives value to hel runes. The sword is too strong and removes all incentive to find good wands/staves early game.
How on earth can cold sorc be in a reasonable position now? It literally kills every single mob. You never have to change a skill ever. How can it be possible that it isnt OP?
No skill, no planning, no tactics, no plan b required. Its dogcrap.
“Frost nova and frozen orb sorc with sunder charms are now probably best balanced builds in game.”
That’s what the poster said. They didn’t say sh33t about “cold sorc.” You’re upset about reading a post that you yourself didn’t read. Impressive, most impressive.
Cold Sorc is a skill now? I missed that one on the tree. It literally kills every single mob? what are you even talking about? Blizzard I assume, a strong T1 skill (for sure) that’s also pretty clunky, and one that typically keeps you casting further away from monsters ie: less chance at group drops.
What amazes me so much about people that think like you, is that the Devs, with the actual numbers in front of them, can see, have said, and posted to the contrary of your beliefs. Yet, you rely on non-facts and emotion, similar to a child screaming at their parents to buy a toy in the middle of a store.
Cold mastery is a skill, and by using another one with it you are a cold sorc. When you are a cold sorc, absolutely nothing is immune. It is difficult to see where emotion comes into that.
Some people just want a win button. And thats ok - but lets not call a cold sorc a challenge, cos it aint!
In fact, it is simply the very easiest way to play D2 since fruition 20 years ago.
Agreed. The main problem with Cold Mastery is it gives too much bang for the buck with no additional gear requirement. I would like to see -% Enemy Cold Resist gear have additional value in the game, hence the 1/5 penalty nerf. As a compromise, they could add a Flickering Flame-equivalent RW that offers -% to Enemy Cold Resist to make up the difference. Call it “Winter,” one of the unused RW names.
You said cold sorc, not cold mastery. Nothing is immune? I assume you mean with a sunder charm. How is that different from anything else now?
Fire and light sorcs are still faster and have higher damage output than any cold sorc, have you looked at that at all? Zon is still faster with infinity, Din is still the fastest with, nothing special.
I’d say a Necro was the easiest way to play, once you past normal Diablo especially so.