Real comparison in P8 Javazon x Holy Fire

Holy fire is not OP, it has more immunes than others, not able to do great part of the game, mix with dream is still not viable for a lot of stuff, like bosses and ubers, and at players X It becomes much worse than MANY other builds like hammerdin, javazon, lightning sorc, and others.

Dreamer is just better overall as it can do reliable EVERY aspect of the game.

It is just a P1 viable kinda build for normal farm, wich all other endgame 7 HR runes worthy build can one shot everything too.

Its fun and will be played, but not OP, just another nice build to use.

Just compare both videos at p8 full geared

https://streamable.com/2o328f

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https://streamable.com/7yrxwr

Plz, dont ask to nerf a fine build because someone who didnt test it enough said its OP.

P.S. Pushing one button or not, being an aura or an active skill is not argument for builds, after all everyone wanted thorns to be a thing…

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Yea there are still better builds, no reason to nerf it. If you spend 7 hr’s on the gear it should be godly.

If anything buff the underperforming builds more.

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Just as I thought. A bunch of people screaming nerf it in the other threads when there are more powerful builds than the Auradin/dragondin. God forbid if we have more fun builds.

Should have thrown an infinity on the Merc too to show how the Zon can shred cows even quicker.

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The funny thing is that’s a terrible javazon build and he’s playing her bad, but the Javazon is still faster than the Dragondin.

I do think the outer edge of the aura needs to be scaled back a bit, in terms of damage. Other than that I think it’s fine.

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both of these kill hell cows P8 slower than my current sorc or pally, and my assassin manages about the same speed.

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Appreciate you all sharing these. This is exactly what I was hoping would pop up and honestly the test on P8 for Holy Fire is encouraging. I thought it would be utter trash on P8 but shows some promise. Certainly, this highlights, in my mind, that Holy Fire is not at all broken and well within precedence.

People need to keep in mind that what Llama was showing was really the pinnacle or ceiling to this build. No amount of +Skills, Anni’s, or Torches is going to buff that Aura damage, and I think it is perfectly reasonable for a final form build to be 1 shotting a variety of enemies in P1.

I’d like someone to show a video of Holy Fire doing P8 Chaos Sanctuary to really put things into perspective for those crying foul.

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It can’t even handle p1 Chaos Sanctuary. It takes longer than a WW barb (legit run, not seal popping), and that’s saying quite a bit.

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Yeah, I mean in all honesty, having tested this for several hours now, running through all sorts of content, I’m almost inclined to have a Fire sale on the ole Auradin and just go back to Tesladin. The P1 Cows might be nice for some rune farming, but there’s so much more content the Tesladin does better and Enigma is just too hard to beat.

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Holy fire pally actually needs to be buffed from where it is to keep up with java and sorc.

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It’s funny because I couldn’t get around to recording a video to show people how it’s not some broken OP build. Please try and post it in all the threads you find.

Mr. Llama said it’s a broken build on YouTube so every player with absolutely no knowledge of the game thinks it’s broken. Without being able to explain why.

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It acts similar to Sunfire Cape in League of Legends, they should just reduce the range a bit and call it.

The entire test is invalid until you show us your skill points to make sure you have maxed all synergies. But honestly just switching the damage to 200% to the CLOSEST enemies, and adjusting down the damage to 100% to the furthest enemies makes the most sense.

It’s still a really passive build. Too bad Vengeance + Holy Fire didn’t have any interactions. Be kinda neat if Holy Fire aura triggered every time you cast Vengeance (for example). Idk. Something to make it less passive, but actually GOOD if you piloted it well.

I also don’t know if this has the PTR updated, even though your in SP.

You should repopst this under ptr feedback section.

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Feel like this is going to get no awareness since you’re not Mr. Llama.

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I think the real reason some players are screaming nerfs is because of PvP. They want all balance changes to be made only for the glory of PvP.

Just give it a bigger PvP penalty and everyone wins lol

I did it in purpose, no hearding and without infinity, and no perfect equipment too.

You’re a hero sir.

Should show it with an infinity too though so you can get a 7Hr Budget vs a 7Hr budget comparison.

You are kidding me you think i would have tested it without the synergies right?