I am considering a raven druid to run through normal on reset. But it seems like the damage is Sh!t? Is it even worth a try? Maybe the creeper is better? I dont want wolfs and i would prefer to go fire when i hit nm.
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Raven is indeed poop, I’d go boulder with wolves or werewolf.
Sounds like a fire build from day one then ;(
You can definitely finish Norm with only ravens, it’ll take a good while and PSN creeper will def be faster. If speed is the goal then go fissure
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Ravens on normal are best damage dealers so max them ASAP.
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Fire druid is pretty much godlike in normal and nm. In hell it slows down, but still one of the easiest to finish it and you are very rarely forced to skip mobs (unless they are both physical and fire immune + stone skin and such). Ssssoooo…why bother with Ravens or anything else if you want to switch to fire anyways?
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It seems like they hit 21-23 each at level 20, which is where i would be in act 4-5. Sounds crazy low, even with a few synergies, it would still be bad 
do you have any experience with ravens?
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Where are you reading that? Without synergies, they do 73-94 per hit at level 20.
Yes, I do 
Your numbers are wrong. They do 73-94 dmg with no additional points in other summond skills. my druid has now level 51 and my ravens with using helm +3 ravens+fully leveled up grizzly+ some point in spirit wolves do 523-645 dmg. They are main damage dealers of summon druid.
And just spirit with +2 all skills boosts the damage by 200.
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Thank you for your response! Cant find these Numbers on the internet
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Well arreat summit is sadly outdated, you can try maxroll site.
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Even with the bigger numbers (in D2R) the ravens still feel really bad to me. There are so few of them (compared to before) and they still miss a lot (especially when the monster is moving). I’m also not overly fond of spamming them so much (this is slightly better than before).
Keep in mind the first time I beat Diablo in Act 4 normal with a Druid was with all ravens (in the original LoD patch when the only synergies in the game were the wolves and bear). It was pretty hilarious being able to hurt him from around a corner with pets that could not die, and I could swear the ravens have a worse chance-to-hit now than back then… 
Fissure currently outperforms the ravens (for me) by a ton, until the fire immunes start showing up en masse in nightmare 
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Poison Creeper is really fast speed for Normal.
Raven need sinergy for work well.
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The creeper is just too random, but i love it haha
Something to try is the act 1 merc. Her inner sight can raise raven accuracy by like 15% on something like pandaemonium Mephisto. It’s pretty helpful for them
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I will try that. I liked playing the druid summoner after they allowed the bear + wolves all at the same time, but wow is he slow. Safe as can be, less awkward than a necro waiting for corpses… but yikes so slow and low in damage .
Yup. My understanding is the summons continue to benefit from synergies beyond hard points, so its def a build that benefits a lot from skills and skill charms. Maxed out, still relatively slow, but if you like it, you like it.
I will be making a summon druid myself
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I beat Hardcore as a summon Druid and the ravens are a hard carry for damage. Dunno why people are saying they are bad.
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Because we have played other classes and other skills that are available in the game .
It is a comparison thing. Even a necromancer with summons feels stronger because of his curses .