RARE Items - can they be good again?

I haven’t played Diablo 2 or LOD in well over 8 years. I don’t know what all changed since then, but I vividly remember in D2 Classic (before LOD was even announced) that Rare Items were the best items in the game. Not every rare item, mind you, but the perfect rolls (or dang near close) and it was a rush to find them! I’d love to experience that again.

Once LOD came, rare items were nerfed (duel leech rings, etc) and it kind of ruined that rush. Powerful rares were no longer as good (in most slots) as uniques and rune words. Crafted items were pretty fun to try to get that perfect roll, but just wasn’t the same as identifying a rare and seeing that godly roll.

I don’t know what the state of rare items are in current versions of Diablo 2/ LOD, but I hope that in D2: Resurrected, they open up more magic prefixes and suffixes to rare items.

What do you think?

Thanks!

It’s gonna be 1.14d, they’ve already said. For LoD, rares will still be godly in certain slots, but you won’t deck your char out in rares. Ex: rare circlets, amulets, boots, rings, and gloves in some situations can be BiS.

Rares are still the best in Diablo 2 classic (non-expansion). This is because there are only ‘normal’ item uniques. Diablo 2 classic did not have exceptional and elite versions of gear.

Rares/Crafted in D2LOD are more niche, but can still be amazing or ‘godly’. Such as gloves (+skills, +leeches), rings (+fcr, +leeches), amulets (+skill, +fcr), and circlets (+2 skills, +20 fcr, etc).

If you want rares to be amazing, stick with Diablo 2 classic.

Pretty sure in Classic they still removed the potential for duel leech rings once LOD was announced (or shortly thereafter).

I did see they gave rares the Cruel prefix (according to Arreat Summit) at some point, but couldn’t find where in historic patch notes. What else, if anything, did they do for rares? Is it possible for tri-resist boots with faster run/walk? I’m guessing duel leech rings are still either dupes from pre-LOD or crafted, right?

I guess I prefer old school D2 where people didn’t all use the same uniques and runewords and probably will play D2: Classic Resurrected… Sadly LOD indirectly changed that experience though!

I dabbled in D2 classic for a bit, I too enjoyed the idea of Rares being the best. I always wanted to build a godly pike/executioner Barb with heavy plate. But I always end up back with D2LOD.

Most BIS item are rare they got nerfed cause you know some rare ring gave 9%LL 9%ML + Str + Tri-Resist do you think its balanced ? No
Now in diablo 2 best item are still rare but they are more on the line with Unique and RW

you can still get dual leach rings but they wont be something crazy like 9/9 they will be like 6/4 or something like that

Yes they still drop you can have FRW or FHR on them + str like bis rare boots is
for melee FHR / Str / Tri-res For caster FRW / Str / Tri-res (FHR = Faster hit recovery)

Rares and Crafts are BiS gear for at least 1-2 item slots in nearly every build.

Most BIS item are rare they got nerfed cause you know some rare ring gave 9%LL 9%ML + Str + Tri-Resist do you think its balanced ? No
Now in diablo 2 best item are still rare but they are more on the line with Unique and RW

Balanced towards what exactly? In D2: LOD, there comes a point when almost nothing lives much longer than a few seconds. They added the Ubers to 1) get rid of duped SOJs and 2) provide somewhat challenging content, because the players eventually become ridiculously overpowered anyway. Their attempts to balance PVP made it less fun, imo. PVP was originally an afterthought in D2, which is how it should of been. It was much more fun that way. Also, 7% was the top end of leech on rare rings and amulets…

Even more then that i can give a few example

Every Melee (not smiter)
every piece of gear have to be Rare with ar/level mod that is call fools mod
with only the belt that has to be verdungo (crafted glove , rare boots (tri-res))

Every Caster … xD
Want Rare Circlet with 20 Fcr( Faster cast rate ) +2 Skill + Resist +Str
Rare ammy( 20fcr str) , 1 rare ring , rare boots

Ok why then i have a ring right now in non ladder that has 9-9 XD Us east

One day I will find that Eth Self Repair 400 ed Cruel Fools 40 Ias Rare weapon :joy:

Ok why then i have a ring right now in non ladder that has 9-9 XD Us east

Probably hacked and duped. Remember Ith bows, etc? A lot of hacked items made it into closed realms over the years.

I know but what i was saying is Rare item are still the BiS that the point i made

i found one 380 ed 2os Eth no self repair tho like 2 year ago in a ladder season too LOL

I am actually very relieved that we won’t be able to transfer our characters to D2:R
Some of those still existing hacked items are really nasty.

Just three of the many mass duped hacked items pestering EU Non Ladder PvP:
https://i.imgur.com/KgI6YJJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/hR63v9o.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/EqNPCfg.jpeg

Bugged tal :smiley: ah the good old days ! :slight_smile: Make a FoH pally equip all the busted/bugged item an inventory of duped Pcomb 40lifer + duped 20/20 ptorch /anni Kick some butt log in on ur char the next day everything is gone LOL

Rares are still good and some are even better than some RWs even. All depends on the rolls.

They are good already …

Rare (also craft) ring/amu/circlet/boots

Also gloves for some characters. Even insane top weapon/shield are still used.