Please put PERSONAL LOOT

u have no clue as u say that kinda nonsence sorry but not worth of time to explain as u don’t understand how it works.

Uhh when do I want D2R to get to a point of where D3 is? I was trying to see the connection between ploot and how that was bad for D3. There were many things wrong with D3 and I just don’t see ploot as one of them.

it does start from ploot and when ppl would see totally empty bosses they start to ask drop % increase and here we go ----->D3

Heh, you try to pretend others don’t understand, then jump immediately to a slippery slope fallacy :rofl:

Yeah, the only arguments I’m seeing from anti ploot people are just invented things that no one but them are suggesting. It’s weird.

Unfortunately, I don’t think so.

I attribute D3 downfall is that it started with poor character/gear itemization. Many disliked the art direction the game took and called it too cartooney. I don’t recall any top complaints about D3 was ploot. Mostly lack of skill/character customization and depth.

Saying it started with ploot is pretty face palm.

it’s more weird to ask something thats already ingame…play passworded game if u wanna ploot in D2R and stop ruining the game from everyone else. nextgeneration gamers with ploot :man_facepalming:

No

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Doesn’t exactly work that way.

"All you have to do is illustrate how it affects everyone. Go."¨

And here we go.
It has effect on him, if all bad looters went on optional ploot games instead of FFA, statistically his changes to loot items in FFA games would go down. Compare it to having a csgo game with mixed ranks, or having separate game with high ranks and low ranks.
Note that im not commenting whether this is a good thing or not.
All im saying it indeed impacts him.
It also impacts him not in the loot generation way but in the way what loot ends up to the market.
So quit with the “optional ploot doesnt effect anyone in any way”

“The game isn’t ruined if the implementation doesn’t affect you at all.”
“The addition of ploot does not mean the game changes for you.”
“It has no affect on you what so ever, actually”
It seems to be one of your core arguments, would you once look further than your toes.

When i had a thought experiement, trying as objectively as possible to put myself on a plooters shoes, what i personally found out is that the reason i would ever want ploot is to acquire loot without having to compete/work for it. Just lay back lick my cheeto stained fingers and grab what drops for me without any pressure.
Then i kept thinking and mostly, atleast males that want that must have the testosterone levels of a 5 year old.
The game is rated 16+ or something.

You have to understand that most the people who are getting into the diablo IP are people from D3 who only know Ploot. and not to mention the old veterans who are used to the old loot system are literally grabbing everything before others. I can see all sides of this issue and others need to be more understanding.

Given that VV is pretty much recreating the game over the old. Its more a remake than remaster. After Blizzard North got dismantled they lost the code and sprites. So its not just a simple remaster like Starcraft or Warcraft.

The loot system will end up staying FFA only because they have to do a massive recode of all loot to do personal. They just won’t do it.

The reason FFA gets people annoyed is because theres always that 1 person who grabs EVERYTHING and share nothing. its a bad habit that a lot of people have and i agree that there should be something for everyone but with personal you don’t have to worry about being raced to always be checking was is dropping every time a mob dies and being super close to grab.

Game rating M which is 17+ but that rating system is dated and not even enforced by anyone

The loot itself isn’t affected by the loot distribution rules. No reason to assume all loot would need a recode.

Some of the new changes Blizzard asked about it their survey is likely many times harder to make.

Guys but do you realize that if they put the shared loot the whole market of D2 will cease to exist as it was with d3? I have at best everything will lose value and we will see Ber everywhere … destroy the d2 market destroy the game. in addition I would like to tell all those who want the personal loot that they have not understood the true spirit of diablo 2.
if i do a ran with a friend i can also split if i do a ran with strangers i don’t see xke i should do it.
you just want a simpler game a kind of pay with money and win … all this has not done for me. in the end not without winning but having fun if you have fun even with 2 rags on you understand how you really play and it will take very little to have a serious ekip. but I think few will be able to understand my words.

I don’t care about D2’s market. I will not sell items. I want to play with my teammates without having to fight over items. Private loot has to be added. Without that the MP will die. If it worked in the past, it doesn’t mean it will work in the present.

Brevik is a brilliant man, and he knows blizzard has the potential to mess things up as they did with D3, let us not forget he started the D3 project(and how much better the game looked from the first video shown).

He would put personal loot in D2 his way, but he doesn’t trust how blizzard will implement it cuz he has PTSD from them destroying D3. As long as drop chances don’t go up for Ploot I garentee Brevik would be on board with adding it as an option.

I guess you are very young … you hear the truth and you want to get strong very quickly, honestly come on ^^
I repeat again destroy the market destroy d2

sorry to say but play D3 instead D2R ain’t for ppl that cannot handle FFA

in ur dreams mayby…but not happening in this reality

No, people dont realize that, because it is a lie.
The exact same amount of items can drop. Market would be completely unaffected.