Plague should be a shield runeword as well as claws and daggers

Plague would be so cool if it could be built in a shield (as well as a weapon). It would gives a reason for an poison Amazon to craft, have better fits an some builds, and the base rune conversion also fits nicely:

Plague: Cham + Shael + Um

  • 20% Chance to cast level 12 Lower Resist when struck
  • 25% Chance to cast level 15 Poison Nova on striking
  • Level 13-17 Cleansing Aura When Equipped (varies)
  • +1-2 All Skills
  • +20% Increased Attack Speed → 20% Faster Block Rate
  • +220-320% Enhanced Damage (varies)
  • -23% To Enemy Poison Resistance
  • 0.3% (0-29.7) Deadly Strike (Based on Character Level)
  • +25% Chance of Open Wounds → 22 Resist All
  • Freezes Target +3 → Can not be Frozen
32 Likes

this is actually a stellar idea. Hell, even keep it as some variance of enhanced damage, as an alternative to phoenix shield

1 Like

Its a cool idea for sure. But I want some love for my poison dagger Necro… I will love you forever, even though you broke my heart when I was so very young :’(
Whatever is better for the dagger necro, to have it as a dagger or shield, I want that. (Using both a dagger and shield is a boring option).

#nerfspirit

Hey this sounds pretty good. Makes much more sense for it to be used.

1 Like
  • 20% Chance to cast level 12 Lower Resist on striking
2 Likes

I agree that swapping the procs to be Lower Resist on Striking and Poison Nova when struck feels better.

My preference would be if we can’t have both, to at least make this a shield rune word. In it’s current state I see it rarely used. If it was a shield and chance to proc lower resist on hit I could see it as best in slot for builds.

1 Like

I agree, this would really mix up the meta, which it looks like they’re trying to do with this patch.

Could be an interesting test along with Dweb instead of spirit too for a poison necro. Or on a rabies druid. Lots of interesting implications.
At the very least, it shouldn’t be swords only. Add it to some other weapons.

Don’t forget there is the Medusa’s Gaze shield already. I could see this runeword being made to support BOTH swords and shields though.

Changing lower resist from “when struck” to “on striking” will not really be compatible with the Act 3 merc, which is who I think this runeword is designed for.

1 Like

This should absolutely happen

I noticed today the original Plague had Enhanced Damage to Demons instead of Enhanced Damage. Maybe on a shield it makes sense for that to come back instead of enhanced defense? I can see a case for either but mostly I just want this to be a shield rune word as it just feels better that way.

Made a small adjustment :wink:

1 Like

I can get behind that. I updated the thread title and original post.

1 Like

Ok Shield sounds good also. So up to this point, we need Plague to be in: a sword, claw, dagger and Shield to dual wield the RW. Capital and no sarcasm. For real.

1 Like

I agree. Claws, daggers, shield would tie nicely to assassin, poison dagger necro, and poison amazon. Sword feels most like druid to me (and it’s already on sword).

2 Likes

yes this and swapping the hit effects would certainly make it a good option.

  • 20% Chance to cast level 12 Lower Resist Poison Nova when struck
  • 25% Chance to cast level 15 Poison Nova Lower Resist on striking

Those that benefit:

  • Hybrid Phys/Poison Zon
  • Poison Dagger Necro
  • Rabies Druid
  • Support Paladin
  • Assassin (in a lot of different ways)
  • Act 5 Barbarian alternative to Infinity Act2

Keep the Enhanced Damage as a way to have an alternative to Phoenix.

2 Likes

I played a little of the amazon tonight on the PTR. The changes to Plague Javelin made it feel like a useable skill. Poison Javelin damage was over 60 seconds which is comical, but I don’t mind as long as one of the 2 is useable and the other is a synergy. As I was playing I kept going back to Plague as a shield runeword would fit so well with Plague Javelin.

Basically you want a Spirit, Infinity, Ravenfrost, plus an UM rune all in the same shield. Make the Lower Resist cast when you block while also removing CBF. Might not be to OP then.

Please explain what you mean.

I am suggesting the rune word as it is be allowed to be created in the shield. By making it a shield the CBF is due to Cham rune and Resist is due to the UM rune.

He’s saying that he feels your request is too OP - without realizing who would use this item and how those items he listed would be impacted by the change.

For his snarky response:

  • Spirit is already too powerful for the runes it uses. Spirit is also a caster shield - focusing only on the +2 skills is a pretty narrow way of looking at the two in comparison.
  • Infinity is not the same as proccing a level 12 Lower Resistance (-57 resistance). Infinity doesn’t lower poison resistance where as Lower Resistance does, they are two different use cases and LR is specifically needed for poison builds. Infinity is also an aura which requires nothing more than being near something.
  • Ravenfrost is a powerful unique that is used in many builds, not just poison-focused builds. The cham rune here gains a lot of value in a shield which was the intent of creating plague, include cham in more runewords to give the rune more value in general. This is how it would create more value.
  • The Um Rune Shields without any resistance make itemization very restrictive in other slots - 22 all res isnt a lot but it certainly helps keep the choices less restrictive.
1 Like