Phoenix runeword issues

sounds like you need to use a different rune word, not change the one that has a purpose.

No, it’s not a bug with druid skills.

It interrupts animations when a skill has a CD. Procs of Frozen Orb, Poison Nova, or Molten Boulder will all interrupt animations.

I’m pretty sure that’s intended.

first off… no… because these proc themselves aren’t affected by casting delay, only the skill that procced them are… … such as fury or dragon talon which are NOT supposed top be interrupted. by a cast u can still get the firestorm animation to go off 3 times a seconds with a nix quite easily

and 2nd… poison nova doesn’t have a casting delay anyways

3rd why on earth would you think its “intended” for all skills in the game to work flawlessly with chance on attack or chance on hit EXCEPT the ones with a casting delay…

and even if u DID think that… even if it WAS intended… why would it be intended for it to interrupt the skill YOU were using… rather than just not be re-procable until the delay was met, or at the very least interrupt the previous proc

your argument saying its “intended” makes absolute zero sense… why on earth would anyone “intend” for that to happen the way it does, its completely illogical… its a blatantly obvious bug. and i have no idea why your so set on saying " its intended"

You can put phoenix in a weapon too right?

It’s not just for shields.

To the op, isn’t Fury considered a bad skill to use anyway because it can get interrupted? I’ve never really played druid so I wouldn’t know exactly, but I know it gets mentioned a lot along with Fend and Strafe from zons when folks talk about those abilities getting messed up by NHAM bug.

True, but, with no +IAS, no crushing blow, no repairs durability / indestructable… and at 4 high runes… ouch. Yeah, no one in their right mind would build one in a weapon unless they really wanted an 80% chance to cast firestorm on strike.

Not saying it was good to put one on a weapon :grinning:

From what I saw it looked more like a paladin shield thing to me.

Sticking redemption on anything was a lazy way for new blizz to dumb the game down. I’m all for removing the aura from the potential item pool forever so that only paladins ever get to use it. It’s not the same as meditation since that doesn’t actively remove corpses that can’t be revived or used as resources for necros.

If necros need every corpse in the game, they are garbage at the game.

Yeah, I could see that. Holy Fire pally could benefit from it possibly, but I’d think an enchant sorc would like it more.

You sure on that?

Phoenix is the only way to get enhanced damage on a shield (aside from +x% enhanced damage jewels), and the redemption aura is very helpful in keeping the character alive. The -28% fire resist is also useful for characters who specialize in fire damage. However, be aware that when triggering Firestorm, it will cause a cast animation, resulting in a delay of 0.6 seconds. Melee characters will be unable to attack during this time. Faster Cast Rate does reduce this delay, but at only half the effectiveness.

Edit: Apparently the website didn’t come over.

I’m telling you how it works. You don’t have to believe me.

because that’s how cooldown works. Also, Cooldown is NOT the same thing as Casting Delay. Casting delay means you press the button now, and the spell is cast later. Cooldown means you can’t cast the spell at all until it’s off CD, but it will respond without delay once you can cast it.

It’s not my problem you don’t understand basic gaming concepts. If you don’t like how Phoenix works, use a different runeword.

i agree the word “should” be cooldown… but arreat summit… written by blizzard… uses the term “casting delay” therefore the term is “casting delay”.

regardless of whether or not that term makes sense… lucky for you as long as u abbreviate it CD no one cares…
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/skills/druid-elemental.shtml

i can 100% guartentee you i have proced nix firestorm 3 times in 1 fury.
and the only “fcr” i run is “fort”

so i dont really care what a wiki that anyone can edit says happens… I’ve literally played the build before… for 2 ladder seasons

i eventfully changed it because it wasn’t as effective a a EBOTDGPA… but i did main that build for 2 seasons so you can tell me its “impossible” for it to proc multiple timers per second all you want…

unless u have video evidence proving otherwise… im going to believe my own eyes over a wiki that anyone can edit.

or should i just edit the wiki myself to make it agree with me?
would that make u feel better?

for the same reason “charm inventory” is called "charm inventory… when its not a seperate inventory for charms… and infact you are adding NON charm space and renaming the OLD space the “charm inventory”

whether or not the name makes sense has no bearing on what it it means…
thats the word blizzard went with so thats the word…

or do u also abbreviate “shako” as “HQ”?

im asking them to fix a bug.

and yes having redemption on nix IS stupid… it doesnt fit. at all
and its frequently used by sorc as a way to get free mana while screwing over others else in the party.

no other item does this…

even natures peace and other “slain monster rest in peace” only destroys corpses from things YOU kill

and no paladin on earth keeps redemption up all the time
its a very toxic thing to have on an item because so many skills make use of corpses

and no the whol bs about "cold sorc freeze corpses is also bs… becuase no… most cold skills dont shatter all corpses and again it only affect monsters that are frozen when they die, as its hard to completely freeze stuff in hell, unless ur just spamming glacier spike over and over… but most cold sorcs run blizzard or orb.

redemption on the other hand… removals ALL corpses from a HUGE radius, and is constantly removing them giving zero leeway for any builds that uses them.

Nobody cares about pvm balance.

Yes, fix firestorm proc
No, do not remove redemption

Redemption is the main draw for Phoenix for most who use it.

i get that but at the very least make it toggleable on and off, you don’t need it up “all the time”.
honestly would be better even for the user not waste the corpses when they don’t need them.

it would also be much more usable in parties… with a necro or if multiple people had it