Petition for Eth Bug and WSG to be added as Legit Features

I feel that with the overwhelming support for both of these glitches that they should be incorporated into the game as an intended feature rather than being seen as a glitch and creating a divide in players who aren’t willing to accept them because they are referred to as a glitch despite having been in the game for many many years without response from the developers.

Weapon Switch Glitch should be added as a legitimate mechanic purely on the basis that it provides a necessary stopgap for PVP scenarios in which you would otherwise need to nerf stunlock potential.

Same with Ethereal durability bugging, it was left in the game as a glitch that could be used by anyone that felt the need to use it and more often than not people ended up using it. It created diversity for Eth Armors, primarily for mercs and uses an already built in function of the game to be achieved - essentially making the Eth Bug recipe a legitimate recipe.

Both of these features constantly saw use in legitimate scenarios and therefore should be included as a legitimate function of the game.

The way I see it is if it widely accepted, despite being a bug, it should be incorporated, as it was never fixed and neither feature really damages any sensitive balancing in the game either - what will damage the game is the removal of say… Stunlocking potential, in regards to WSG, as you open a whole can of worms in the use-case potential of classes like Paladins.

Eth Bugging for Mercs will not have immediate ramifications on players themselves if removed but it has always been a very popular glitch mechanic for the already mostly useless Mercs.

With this, it is an even ground for both that are party to the For/Against arguments. Nobody loses, everyone wins.

Yes to both.

These are massive changes, please add them back into the game.

Eth bug

Keep bug removed, add chance to get between 0-50% ED on item when recipe is used. Or keep it removed, its not a big deal, we can live without it.

WSG bug

I am for fixing it, but since there is no solution to problems for pvp which would removing cause, i am for reverting fix for now, and fix it later after better solution is found how to balance FHR/stunlocking issue in pvp.

I feel like the Eth Bug could also benefit from being a direct cube recipe, honestly. An expensive one at that.

outside of those two becoming features , what i would like personally , is also to make the andy bug as a feature directly by making her glitched drop the norm.

it’s a bit unfair to those that don’t know about this gltich (considering it can literally make their character almost worthless as an andy farmer )
we know about it , but many new players don’t and they will feel very frustrated about it as soon as they do if it’s too late for them

See, that is something that we can definitely do without because it is an imbalance that allows you to obtain something.

WSG and Eth Bug don’t really do much outside of their niche scenarios.

I feel boss drop bugs shouldn’t be present in the game, but that’s just my take on it. I, like many others, enjoy the mystery behind whether or not we’ll get a good drop from a boss after we’ve killed them and gotten their Quest Drop already.

It’s a very murky situation once we start asking for bugs to be added as features - you have to know where to cut it off.

If we start making Boss Quest Drop bugs a feature, it’ll be no better than promoting dupes.

well personally i’am on board for either : fix it entirely or make it a feature.

leaving things as glitch that some can exploit and other not is a bit bad in my opinion

that being said , eth bug armor do increase significantly the armor stat making the game easier if you do use it aswell. (even if it does give a nice end game farm possibility)

+1 fix wsg, the pvp community considers it a feature of the game. We fought for it to be reimplemented when it was removed briefly in 1.13.
Eth bug seems less important but I would prefer if it was in the game.

I would agree. Her drop if you miss the bug is pretty much abyssmal

People call it quest bug but its not exactly that. She doesnt have her quest drop repeatedly.

If you remove the bug, her drops are horrible so people will be running pretty much just mephisto and there is no variablity. Thats why her non quest drop should be improved.

Elaborate, please Zax, I do not understand what you’re saying here sorry.

If you kill andariel for the first time, she has quest drop. It is always 3 gems + other items i believe. If you bug her by going to second act in same game, she has some kind of hybrid between normal and quest bug. Its not same drop as her quest as there are not 3 gems anymore but she cant drop junk stuff (arrows…)

If you dont go act 2, her drop is worse by far and she can even drop junk items.

Maybe I’m biased by my experiences but I’ve always just ran with it whenever I farm her. Her unique Ring/Amulet drop rate is so high that it sort of balances itself out.

It’s still her same quest drop, the gems are added as an extra drop, much like the countess’ special drop. It is true that the gems aren’t dropped, but that is the only difference. Who cares about a few gems? The quest drop roll is exactly the same for first kill and subsequent Bugged kills.

Yes that was my point, its her unique quest drop she has only once, quest drop bug is different. Not sure why you say its same when in next sentence you say its different with added gems.

Ok, but you understand the only thing that differs is the couple gems right?

It’s the same drop absent the gems.

isn’t that better ? i mean they are replaced by others items that are boss drops (meaning high chance of unique with enough MF )

Yes i do understand lol thats why i said its hybrid drop, bugged one is not her non q drop but not even quest drop :slight_smile:

I am going to sleep now, i will check ingame files tomorrow and we can talk about it in detail.

I’d for sure like to hear more on this to ensure I’m not misunderstanding the idea behind this glitch. Either way, it still sounds like a method of improve your odds at drops through means other than MF/legitimate quest kill, which I don’t approve of.

they will need to remove eth bug shields and player armor so i guess just give mercs 50% more armor?