There is no proof in people making topics on this. People who like things just the way they are dont make topics on this topic at all only people that dislike things and want P8 do so the number of topics on forum proves nothing, but the number of people replying and opposing on these topics do. Which bring me back to the fact that this post alone has more than enough people opposing ur claims to prove my point, dont even need to look at more posts.
I care because this is multiplayer with trade and an economy based upon certain droprates, there is no such thing as private when it comes to multiplayer economy, even though u call ur game private and put on a password the items u find are still part of that economy as soon as u start trading and use jsp or whatever u do. If u really want private and P8 i really cant see why u dont just play single player, everything u want is right there in SP. And what i have done (or have not done) to maintain a population of 8 players doesnt matter as long as we dont have P8 cheat code. Play the game as it is supposed to be played and stop crying about droprates and not being able to manipulate player count
Yea the proof is in how many people like posts regarding a p8 slider. Mostly the people complaining about it are just neurotic people who need a reason to victimize themselves
There is no trade economy botters have crashed jah rune worth beneath the floor. Try to know what you are talking about. I cant help other players in single player or pvp if i want. You can stop crying about getting to limit problematic peoples autonomy in public games any time
Again u are making assumptions and ignoring all the people that disagree and calling them neurotic. U are going in circles and trying to manipulate the numbers on posts just like u would like to manipulate player counts.
As u tried to tell me urself in an earlier post the issues with botters and jsp is a different topic, this by no means a legit excuse for implementing P8 slider and making the problem even worse. Like i said this is a problem blizzard should and could have solved years ago. Besides the ingame economy and value of items is probably not as effected as the items vs jsp forum gold is. But yes if u are counting ur items value in fg then the value is low but for people actually trading ingame the rune value vs items is not as effected as the jsp value
Im not ignoring them i know very well they are upset over a concept of being responsible for how they act
You brought up the topic of trading which is redundant because of the fact you based your reasoning on having to"share drops" which in your case means wait for someone to kill stuff then you take the loot
And yet u still try to ignore them when trying to imply that people that want P8 cheat code is a majority when its pretty obvious that the community is split.
I brought up the topic because its very much related to the reasons people come up with for implementing P8 and the effect this would have on the economy. If u are running P8 Baal runs on multiplayer like u said in an ealier post then yes u will have to share loot between u and 7 other players. With P8 slider available those 7 other players could run their own P8 game simultaneously without sharing their loot with anyone resulting in 8 times more items found between them with very little extra time spend than running 1 run together if u run a top tier P8 build. Its pretty simple math and this will get abused to the max from the jsp botters thats for sure
Can you find one comment disagreeing with me that i havent replied to? Lmk ill reply to it its not a p8 cheat code. People already manufacture p8 by using multiās this would just be for individual private bnet games. Id be happy with a ban people from game option as well
Noā¦unless someone is doing all of the killing for you and you are just snatching stuff this would not apply. Your argument would be towards balancing other game builds
Its not about u replying to the posts but the fact that u try to ignore the sheer number of people opposing the P8 slider when trying to imply that people who wants P8 is a majority.
When running a public baal run it doesnt matter who gets the loot, in fact even if only one guy gets every single drop its still only 2.5 times the loot of a P1 game. However the 7 other people will then get nothing while still spending the time of a full run. With P8 they can run 8 simultaneous runs and get 2.5 times the loot from a P1 game each which is just about 8x2.5 times the loot instead of 1x2.5 and all 8 runs will be done with very little extra time spend using a top tier build. Same goes for multi acc people. Imagine being able to run 8 bots simultaneously all running P8 instead of using 7 extra accs just to fill up one game. Botters heaven if u ask me
Well as far as i can see even just looking at this post this is not the case, u are just trying to make the numbers fit ur opinion
This is probably just about the worst excuse ive seen for making things even worse by implementing P8. Like i said the issues with bots and jsp is something that blizzard should have solved years ago but P8 slider will only make it even worse than it already is.
This is a concept thats been spread out over many posts. This small group of guys always try to stop people from talking about it but their convulsive nature supports my opinions
A jah rune is worth like 30fg? The last time i hosted baal runs someone gave me a jah rune for hosting it. Its redundant to fictionalize worth in implimenting this mechanic in contrast to the value of items. The basic person is not going to compete with someone who has 5 bots anyway even if they are all on p1 and you are on p8
You were absolutely right this guy is unbeliveable, not even math seems to workā¦
The way i see it its the same small group of narrow minded people that keep bringing this topic up.
Some people actually dont care about 3rd party website currency, they care about the ingame value to them it really doesnt matter how much a Jah rune is in fg but how much that jah rune is worth ingame. This topic is not about competing with bots, and a game should never be balanced around bots , its a different issue that should be dealt with by blizzard instead of implementing yet another feature that would benefit bots even more
Totally agree to this, just because āpricesā are totally out of control we shouldnāt say that it wouldnāt matter if we have /pX or not. Then where would it matter if we can use an editor to create items online lol.
Maybe because itās directly tied to monsters maybe surviving more than one tap, way more experience gain, and way more drop chance ⦠in a game where the only āendgameā is either PK or run the same 1-3 minute MF route thousands of times where the results are completely random?
Also the RMT bot ridden hellscape of public games is basically barren from reliable high player count games.
Does it not make sense, or are you just trolling again? Oh yeah, youāre just trolling, again.
Trying to imply the amount of support or opposition to anything based on forum activity is extremely naive. This is a microscopic sample of the playerbase as a whole.
That said, there are plenty more people on here who support /pX or client-side ban lists for games than it appears in these more recent threads. What you see here are a couple people who are hellbent for it and are willing to talk incessantly about it, with a handful of people who are hellbent against it and are willing to talk incessantly about it.
Iām for it, but I have better things to do than spend all day every day arguing about it, especially against bad-faith trolls.
To be honestā¦the forum hasnāt been so alive for a while. :))
All we need, it seems, is a troll who is really dedicated orā¦the unicorn⦠a completely oblivious individual who actually believes the nonsense his spewing.