No Inventory Auto-Sort?

VV: We want to preserve the authentic experience of D2, even if the majority of the playerbase wants this, we’ll be keeping manual combat tetris and tedious stash rune organizing.

Also VV: We don’t actually want to preserve the authentic experience of D2, therefore we’re going to fundamentally change the ladder and non-ladder player dynamic and diminish the ladder experience.

For the love of Mike Morhaime! Why is this happening?

Even the Blizzard WoW team had the sense to at least sometimes listen to their most hardcore players over the casual majority on some key issues. Because one crop of players might actually be more informed for how a change would affect the game, but also because it’s just simply good business to consider all sides of your playerbase rather than alienating a crop of your dedicated fans.

Non-ladder players never needed to play ladder in order to get ladder rewards, and nothing ever prevented Nolads from playing ladder. So what’s the problem?

I love ladder. This change does not prevent me from playing ladder; however, this change does effectively kill ladder for me, because it does prevent me from feeling good about playing something I otherwise enjoy. When am I ever going to find the time to enjoy it when I know it’ll be objectively better for me to keep on farming on my ever-powerful NL character?

This is kind of like how I might enjoy playing D2R, but knowing it’s an ActiBlizzard product, I won’t be able to feel good about enjoying it. See how that works? No offense to the devs, I know you’re trying really hard <3

This change is polarizing and toxic to the community. Ladder players who don’t care about non-ladder will continue to play ladder. Non-ladder players who don’t care about ladder will continue to play non-ladder. But what about the rest of us who do care? I love playing both and now I won’t be able to enjoy playing both. Even if we’re the minority on this issue, we’re still a significant fraction of the playerbase; our opinion matters too.

It’s tempting to just always go with what the “majority wants,” but when making significant changes, it’s important to also consider what your core dedicated players want and how this will affect everyone. This is such a huge change. It’s good for SP; but it baffles me when you’ve put so much care to not tread on minor issues, to then not consider how this would affect the online community, player dynamic, and overall experience. Is this really faithful to the game and to all of the community that has continued to love it for all this time?

No, this change is not faithful to the D2 experience, it was added to the game in the first place with good reason, just as runewords were. All you’re doing is polarizing the playerbase, harming the longevity of the economy, and ruining the ladder experience for many.

You’re just going to have to decide: What is this game supposed to be? A remaster? A remake? A reboot? An expansion? A sequel? What is it? Maybe the game should be delayed so there’s more time to focus on this question, because it seems to me you’re trying to decide between players who want the faithful OG experience and those who want a significantly new experience. Which audience is this product intended for? I’m honestly very confused about it.

Thank you for taking the time to read the concerns from a player who does not disregard the overall experience of the game in order to hyper-focus on any one aspect of the game-- a player who enjoys each and every aspect of D2. Please be considerate of others when thinking about what you “want” and how it may affect others. This is a game that has always been able to be enjoyed by both hardcore and casual players; let’s try to not change that. I love you all. Thank you.

I don’t think VV did that with the ladder because they wanted to but because the ladder just doesn’t work the way they want it to.
You interpret that wrong I think

I don’t know what to think, because we’re lacking official statements on the matter. We never got clear reasoning for the change, just as I have yet to see a clear argument for how this change could be seen as objectively good for the game.

I don’t care deal with it, it’s just a game in the end

Well, if I look at it logically, it makes more sense to release the game WITHOUT the ladder but with the items for all, so with a BROKEN ladder and without items for all…(and more problems because the whole thing dont work proper)
Maybe they change it again later when the ladder starts. Who knows…,

I am very happy that I MAY find ALL items. Especially in singleplayer :slight_smile:

This is the toxicity I’m talking about.

The devs are supposed to consider the players who care, not the players who don’t care.

For you is just a game for me a player who played this game years is more then that.

as I said. I think that with the Ladder is just a misunderstanding.
I prefer to play on 23 sten as it is now planned than to wait months until the ladder can start functioning.

Still makes it a video game

But what he is saying is that it has more value to him for longevity reasons. It’s like if you have a sentimental cup that was passed down to you, imagine if someone else broke it and told you it was “just a cup you know!”.

Well that isn’t broken though since the original game still exists

Oh man you just don’t understand what we mean so don’t worry about.

Oh I sure know what you guys mean and it makes me laugh cause you get mad at stupid things

Nobody is mad, on the contrary, from our point of view, YOU seem angry, not us, and who is to decide what is a “stupid” thing or not? You? Nobody here gave you that decision, but again I know from seeing what you have wrote, you are incapable of understanding other peoples points of view, so we will just leave it there.

Im not the one writting an essay about the game + I’m not angry I couldn’t care less what VV makes with the game, it is their game they choose. The end.

Well, if I look at it logically, it makes more sense to delay the game; because clearly the game is not ready.

I do think there is some sort of misunderstanding with how the ladder to non-ladder player dynamic worked. But regardless, the devs should know better.

Indeed. I’m just wanting to have an OG D2 experience I can enjoy again for the next 20 years.

The original game may still exist, but unfortunately it’s fairly broken. I want it to be faithfully restored with modern network support. I want the economy to naturally unfold as it normally would over the next 20 years.

Changing the ladder to non-ladder dynamic is not going to give me the same experience I’ve enjoyed for years in D2, it’ll be a diluted experience unfaithful to the game.

And again, you demonstrate perfectly your inability to understand anything other than your own very narrow point of view, I can literally feel the blinders you have on and i’m sorry but it’s just pitiful.

So for the third time now, you really don’t need to keep replying, you’ve more than proven it.

Well you’re not getting the 20 past years back, and D2R won’t either in anyway. The only way would be getting a time machine. Sorry but you have to make peace with it

Sure whatever I guess you guys are always right anyway so … Keep fighting the good fight I guess :slight_smile:

Seems like you never played Diablo2 and you are here just to troll.