You probably heard how Last Epoch got this system where players can choose if they want to gear up from trading or looting only with increased drop chances. When I think about it it could be even more fun than Solo Self Found mode. Those who don’t trade much in D2 have a hard time getting good items. Would you like it in D2?
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This would be OK for a SSF mode… If it were ever to come to the game, which I highly doubt will happen.
If it were to become a reality by some miracle, the only thing I’d fear would happen is the noobs would get a taste of the drop rates and start swarming the forums/tweeter/shreddit whining that the multiplayer trade drop rates should be increased to match.
I expect trading would still be faster way if people are using previously earned forum gold for it on every ladder which is kinda against fresh start idea. Some are against jsp website overall and think drop rates are too low so that alternative mode would be cool to please everyone without making trading fans angry.
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Eliminating trade for increased loot is a pretty mid idea. Not that I don’t think some might want it, but it is just not efficient. Trading is a far quicker way to increase your build’s strength if you good at the game, and it doesn’t take much, but still so many people are quite awful. I think it is an issue of them not knowing that they don’t know what to do and relying on others who don’t know for info.
Because even with an increased drop rate the things you want can be locked away from you simply because of RNG. A torch for your specific class, almost all great items are impossible. Not that you probably won’t find a griffon eventually, but getting a full set of life skillers would be near impossible I would think. And yeah maybe your sorc might find 3 zod runes, but you can’t make an infinity with 3 zods. All this when you could trade out those extra torches and zod runes and skillers for classes you won’t make for something you do need.
Personally I don’t care if it gets added because I don’t think many would bother, nor would it affect me. It might get the SSF clowns to shut up which would be nice tbh. Nah nvm they’d still cry 24/7 cuz someone traded and they couldn’t and that is the reason they lost the ladder race, it had nothing to do with the fact that they were never competitive in the first place. Meanwhile they all go to sleep knowing that llama would still crush them in the race.
Also btw if you play ladder you should trade. Use traderie or JSP even if you’re one of the weirdos that hate JSP, fine don’t use FG list your items and what you want and look for item:item trades. Because sitting on a perfect arrets with you’re only working on a druid is sort of a waste unless you plan on using it later.
First trading without anything else in mind will always be a faster way than finding everything yourself because your focuses are narrow meanwhile you can trade items outside of that focus for ones that are inside of it.
And previously earned FG isn’t the issue. It is the fact that there is no easy and fast way to trade in game. I spent the 2nd ladder and never went below my initial forum gold bank. The common currency and the amount of users make trading easy AF. Sure some use past fg, sure some RMT, but the biggest factor is how fast it is by comparison to anything else.
You can be, then use traderie. I think you’re foolish to not at least item:item trade there, but then again I also think you’re foolish to not use FG as a way to speed up trades. Hell you could give it all away after ladder closes if you want, nobody would stop you. Traderie is a good option but it is far slower.
Now as for those that think drop rates are too low. They’re simply bad or inefficient players. There is zero reason to adjust the drop rate until they get good. Would be like buffing the AK47 in CS because you don’t know how to aim or move or how the mechanics work.
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Not sure I get you right but like that you can also call players inefficient because they don’t use bots. Buff some weapon for everyone is a bit weird comparison too. It would be alternative mode so original game stays the same. I’d compare it to “zero build” mode in Fortnite which was welcome addition and convinced some players to return to the game. Main mode is still there untouched.
Nah we don’t have to go that far with it. If you actually play diablo, semi regularly, and efficiently, and intelligently the drop rate is really pretty good and far better than it used to be. I grinded the first two months of season one for D2R after the first reset and if you want I can list the stuff I found, and I also repeated the same thing next ladder. There is no issue with obtaining gear.
And the comparison fits. I’m not so sure how it is weird. If you’re mechanically playing the game poorly, and having bad results, the game doesn’t need to buff something to improve those results.
Bad Aim + Movement → No Kills → Isn’t the weapons fault
Bad Farming Strategy → No Finds → Isn’t the drop rate’s fault
As long as they don’t get their own fake ladder I’m cool with them having this option. Let them come and play and get their own ploot they cannot trade that is better. I’m perfectly fine with it.
This is correct
but here I got impression that you think players are stupid and bad if they don’t want to use third party software to play the game which I can’t agree on such statement.
Still I didn’t mean to argue if jsp good or bad so that’s why idea is alternative mode without changing anything in standard. If increased drops on alternative mode would indeed hurt experience of standard players then okay just stay with simple Solo Self Mode idea.
I do think a ton of players are stupid and bad. But not because they don’t want to use 3rd part software. But D2JSP isn’t 3rd party software it is a 3rd party trading platform. Third party software would refer to map hacks, bots, cheats. Outside of that I still think people are idiots, but not necessarily bad at the game for not using JSP for trading. You could have some sort of objection to the premise of the site, sure, but an item:item trade does absolutely nothing wrong. At the very least you could use traderie, and at that point if you have an issue with a 3rd party trading site which also breaks no rules just like JSP doesn’t then yes, I think you’re an idiot. To each their own, but their issues with trading and being unintelligent in that department has nothing to do with them actually be bad or inefficient at the game.
I’m not sure it would really hurt anything from the regular mode. Your mode has an okay idea behind it and I understand your view. I just don’t think it would ever surpass being able to trade, nor would a lot of people participate. Just like I don’t think a crazy amount of people would participate in SSF mode.
Edit: No need to argue on the JSP subject really. There are alternatives that have no negative aura. Not trading however will limit your growth, and farming capability. Still the biggest issue most who complain about drop rate is that they simply don’t know how and where to farm or how to maximize potential.
Deep down inside you people want this:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/new-game-mode-super-softcore-%F0%9F%91%B6/163845
C’mon man, did you make a meme post to mock his idea. That’s not very nice!
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I wish I had. But my meme post is older than this one.
LOL. Didn’t notice that. Well, you pregamed the anti-meme mode thread. Your clairvoyance is quite impressive.
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Everybody keep calling me clairvoyant and an oracle without my consent. I would have them know, I identify as a warlock.
My ævocations cause future events 
So how much FG to you get paid every time you promote D2JSP on here?
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Why would the official trading patch for D2LOD and D2R supported fully by activision-blizzard need any advertisement or to pay me?
I actually just like helping the noobs that don’t know any better tbh.
SSF already in the game, called single player.
Why even play online? It’s not an MMO and other players add nothing to your game experience, online play is just cheating yourself through the game.
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No, there’s D3 and D4 in case you don’t know.
Play solo mode, 8 players
I’d much rather have an easier time to trade. Finding items that work for other classes and builds is a great thing. The real problem with this game isn’t that we have low drops it’s that we have a hard time to trade things. Enough legit found items are out there, but we just can’t connect the buyers and sellers with each other.
Add in a proper ‘market’ for the players to be able to list items and buy items at any time and you will eliminate the gold sellers and people will get the items they want faster and easier.
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