You broke the game with this one guys. Cheapest most overpowered runeword of all time comes out just before release of Diablo 4. What a surprise…the problem is mosaic sins are the fastest clearing class in the game and broken in pvp for just 2 gul and 2 mal. faster clearing than javzons, hammers, auras, everything. there is not a single class that is stronger and the classes that come anywhere near close to mosaic clear speed have to build with like 3 jah runes plus. but at least amazons run out of javs to throw and at least the other classes cost more than 2 guls to build. my friend ran around naked with a sin. literally no gear on her except 2 mosaics. and cleared the entire game faster than i have ever seen any other class. there is something wrong with that. please fix this immediately.
first mosaic had 25% probability to not consume. maybe there it was already broken but streamers mrlama suggested to increase it on their stream. and then it was really broken…
I guess you haven’t seen any other class then.
Cheapest most OP runeword? Yes
Fastest class? Nah
Best budget nowadays? Yes
Best PvP? LOL?
Fastest clear ever with no gear just mosaics? You must be new.
I actually clicked a video… I think it mighta been Cooley?
Anyway, he was showing how, even though it’s not a duelling build you can effectively use because of maintaining charges…
He showed that anyone who dared to PK him while he was MFing, sorc, pally, doesn’t matter, they couldn’t touch him.
He didn’t even have to attack back, they just died as consequence of being nearby lmao.
I agree with OP, this is the one change that I’m really unhappy about. It just feels like a goofy fan mod made it into the official game.
First cooley is a clown.
Then you’re comparing MF builds to the MA sin build, which gears up and maintains an existence more near a PvP build than more other PvM players. You’re also talking about him in a PvM game where he is an actual PvPer getting griefed by some low level wannabe PvPer who goes into PvM games to gain an advantage. It just isn’t good PvP.
Do I think that mosaic is an awful way to improve MA sins and an eye sore? Yes. But it isn’t the best PvP nor PvM class. Nor does it rush the fastest. But I also realize that if I don’t like it I am in no way obligated to play it which is pretty cool.
I get that. We’re alike in that regard. I’m essentially a solo bnet player. And I can just stay in my bubble and pretend it doesn’t exist.
But for people who are really into the community, remember that, because this build is SO insanely powerful, and dirt cheap… you’re gonna see this absolute joke running around in every game, dipping your frames down to the teens, and crashing your client if you run vfx on ultra.
For people more into the community, it’s hard to just ignore it.
I would argue that it isn’t so insanely powerful. It is just up there with all the other S tier builds, I don’t think it is the best S tier build either.
It is however VERY budget, but it doesn’t matter how it starts in the end you’ll still need enigma, and probably eventually infinity. So to be efficient with all that free bonus damage that your budget weapons allow you to have, you have to make a solid investment into late game. You probably also need a griff. You might be passible without all of that, but then so are cold sorcs, light sorcs, hammerdins, hork barbs, javazons.
Now as for the visual eye cancer and the fact that I don’t think that any class should be forced to wear a specific item to be viable. I don’t like the frame issues, but even if you had good frames I never liked eye clutter and that severe brightness and that should not have been how they made MA sin viable in PvM.
If mobs randomly got some invisible AOE hit or even if the color was toned down and it wasn’t covering the entire screen, and it was built into the MA skill tree, but essentially functioned at the same capacity it would be just fine.
Unfortunately I want to nerf immediately. Unfortunately in the best case it will only be next season, and if it happens. I doubt the devs won’t want to assume what a giant mistake they’ve made by listening to youtubers.
Hammerdin was already the final build of the game it should be the milestone.
Yes, it’s shameful for a build to work just because of a runic word, which was poorly sized for the cost-to-power ratio while all the unique items that should be the focus of the MF are simply junk.
I really am over the mosiac siyuation. Its part of the game and they arent likely getting rid of it. I just ignore it and play other kits. If i join a lobby and its full of that visual diherra i just break off from the group or find another lobby
You fail to comprehend one important fact regarding profits …
it helps botters!!! Botters buy cd-keys, cd-key sales = profit.
You the gamer are of little to no consequence. You are nothing!
They needed a new fleecing cash cow, that newest evolution of the game, but, they needed the sustainability of the the cash flow from this game … botters/d2stores.
You as a player cannot compete much less win. Basically, you don’t matter and your pleas fall upon very deaf ears. End of story.
Each new addition, starting with so-called "balances, then enigma, now mosaic and all the little tweaks in-between are not for you [as much as your ego would like to think they are] … they have one purpose: botters/d2stores and the sale of cd-keys.
You buy 1 maybe 2 cd-keys, if they are lucky.
Botters buy hundreds of them … so anything you want or anything to help your gaming experience means nothing.
They need to falsify the number of the player base and show cash out the door to upper management and the board and the shareholders. They also need to keep the facade going long enough to try to sell their trash to microtheft.
So, you my friend, an actual player that actually likes and cares about the game are moot!
Have you played a mosaic build? It’s really fun. And a welcome change that gives hope for positive new experiences in the game.
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I’ve played claw assassins since 2003.
I’ve always wanted a Grief nerf / fix.
The damage type it uses was not supposed to be used – and it breaks the game, specifically, it isn’t counted in your character screen.
It should have added +max damage instead, and would have been perfectly balanced with Death and Breath of the Dying with +330-400 max damage.
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One runeword taking a D-tier build to S-tier is not particularily fun, and that’s exactly what Diablo 3 does wrong that rubs me all the wrong ways.
Have my character be powerful on his or her own, then add items that further enhance that potency.
Don’t add gamebreaking arcade mechanics that don’t make mechanical sense.
For one – only one kick or claw attack should have activated the charges.
I refuse to even touch the class with that abomination item existing. Hell I won’t even join a public game with one in it.
As for “it not being the best/fastest” Mosaic easily won ladder against all the other RMT players out there. SO objectively speaking, yeah it’s the fastest. By the only metric that actually matters. Measurable speed.
you dont need enigma. you use dragon flight. problem solved with zero gear. gg this runeword makes absolutely no sense at all and has no place in diablo 2. it’s turning the game into D3 resurrected. get this trash out of the game
I don’t see how sin is “not viable” outside of this build. Traps are better than they’ve ever been with the resistances fixed, and there have been other specialized martial arts builds that have been useful for a long time.
“Viable” just means “good enough to clear the game and farm their way to 99.”
“Viable” is not synonymous with “the best.” It just means “it is reasonable to do”
If you like being worse than you could be you certainly could use dragon flight. You could also use tele charges. But if you want the build to be good, you need enigma.
MA sin is not viable outside of wearing dual mosaics.
Traps are better since sunders and negative resists work with them now that is a true statement, but is not part of a MA SIN build.
If the removal of one item changes all viability in PvM AOE clear if your character, then the basic build is not viable without it and you are forced to wear said item to become viable.
In normal pvp it sucks because nobody is going to let you build charges, but once a mosaic sin has charges they are unkillable.
Can’t agree, because I’ve done it.
Viable is viable, didn’t say anything about any pa rticular build.
And as far as Enigma, as great as it is, no one NEEDS it to be “viable.” I think you’re confusing “play at top tier level” with “viable.”
Don’t you just flat lose charges after a certain amount of time? Also even fully charged all ranged just dodges not really sure what you’re doing to catch up. Isn’t mindblast weak AF nowadays because of the FHR change? Even on top of that I’m not sure most melee classes lose.
It isn’t good. I’m glad you’ve tested not good builds.
Thread is about mosaic which goes to MA sins, which is the topic of discussion.
You need access to teleport to be good. I know you’re used to not being good, and thats fine you’re more than welcome to play at your own slow pace. It isn’t even “at top tier level” type of scenario, the build just isn’t good at that point.