Look, I don’t care that it’s been an amazing build for the entirety of LOD. It’s an overpowered, easy, cheap build which requires absolutely no skill, completely outshines ANY other build at pretty much all gear levels for PVM, has practically no counter (since most if not all magic immunes are undead - which can be damaged with Holy Bolt). Reduce it’s damage by 20%. It would still be a great build, but would open up some more possibilities for end-game. Right now, one single class (Paladin) is able to achieve everything in PVM - especially when they get their hands on Enigma.
A full MF Hammerdin can easily clear all 85 areas, bosses and even Uber Tristram / Diablo with cheap gear switch (Black/Treachery/etc.)
Patch 2.4 buffs some under-used builds, that’s awesome. Yet, none of them are barely close to Hammerdins. They still outshine every other build/class in the game. It’s time to end their supremacy.
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just going to say this before all the pitch forks come for you. I do not really agree with asking for other builds to be nerfed just because your either jealous or sad about another build for whatever reason. It’s really sad to see people acting like this tbh. I think its better to ask for say for examples sake your build to be buffed or made better. Why ruin other peoples fun?
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Jealous? How could I be jealous of a build, if I wanted to play it, I just would. I think it’s a cheap build that completely ruins the otherwise quite interesting balance between other classes. Sorceress is also a little bit advantaged but that’s mostly because they have access to Teleport. That will always give them an edge.
I honestly see no reason why one build should be allowed complete dominance over all other builds.
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I’m just saying there has to be a better way for you to get your point across rather than asking for it to be nerfed? Also have you played it? do you know how clunky that hammmer is? and how it only really works in open areas? too clunky for me but I’m not worried about other people who enjoy it.
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you must be really fun at parties
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Well, if the build is overpowered, what else can be done other than to nerf it?
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personally I do not agree but that’s me. 
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Blessed Hammer need to be nerf (remove minimum 1 synergies) and the sorc cold mastery privilege , need to be rework the same of lighning and fire
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It actually wasn’t good for the entirety of LoD. For the first two years they were pretty bad. Then suddenly 1.10 dropped with synergies to make it strong and the enigma and hoto runewords. Bizarrely, zons were killed at the same time. 1.10 really completely changed the game.
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That is how d3 power creep began
If there are only a handful of builds overperforming it is better to nerf the overperforming ones
İ.e. İf you have 5 builds overperforming, and 30 other builds (making the numbers up) it is better to nerf those 5 builds. Because while trying to up 30 other if u miss a point and 2 of them becomes even more powerful then the initial 5 >>>>>. People start “buff the other 33 to match the 2 overpowered ones” >>>>> vicious cycle continues
That is how in d3, we went from GR 50-60s to GR 150s and people now even want GR150+ Enabled (which cant be for technical reasons)
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Helltooth is the inflection point for D3. If they had just nerfed that set instead of buffing everything else by 10x the following patch the game would still be healthy.
That sounds reasonable, it just won’t happen in this patch.
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Only noobs play hammerdin. Why would anyone be sad?
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+1 hammerdin is totally overpowered.
No build should be able to clear in P8 all game so easily…
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The choice is simple. We either make everything as good as the Hammerdin (game becomes easier), or we level up by slightly nerfing the OP and slightly buffing the less than OP (game becomes harder).
I would hope for a more difficult game, rather than a less difficult game.
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Nope bad idea.
There is no competition in D2 PvM as it is rather easy anyway.
So hammerdin is perfectly fine albait quite boring for over 15+years.
Instead you should ask for buff to other underperforming builds.
Really stupid mentality to nerf what is not broken just because you can…
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I do wonder how many fewer people would play a hammeradin if it weren’t far and away the strongest character. Like, how many people think the gameplay is so fun they would play it if it were only viable. Also, D2R pally should have had a huge right thigh from 18 years of doing right side only 1 leg lunges 2000 reps a day.
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if they buff aura aoe dmg not to 200% but 600% they would meet the strengh of some random budget hammerdin - swinging aoe magic hammers doing 9k with 95% maxresi 75fcr -not talking about enigma hammerdisn with 15k+ dmg and 125fcr
Strongest where ?
Smiter is better for Ubers or Kicksin etc.
Javazon is much better for cows/baal or any Aoe clears.
Item find barb is best MF char in the game.
Light soso with Infi is faster than hammer.
And in PvP hammer is average.
Not really. Hammers hit in spiral so basically you have to have Teleport or it is pure torture.
Aura hits everything on entire screen at once and it is free of action/mana. You cannot even begin to compare it. Aura is unavoidable in PvP. Also generally hammer dmg is ± 12k without skillers as they are not needed in PvM. So think about it next time.
I played it 10+years ago a lot but now its too boring so that is the prize you need Enigma and to not bore yourself to death. Much prefer my LS/WW hybrid even if its not that great in P8 without Infi.
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When all geared up, I’d concede your point. But most players will never even see an infinity, and that hammeradin is amazing as soon as you can get a spirit.