Needs of Classes: Druid-Elemental, Amazon-Magical, Necro-Physical, (let's talk about Virtue and the Child)

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(hmm, to reply with the diagrams or not on this thread. The clock ticks. You’ve had all the time but now it’s up)

There’s some kind of major and deep problem with the game design overall between the needs of the 3 heroes stated in the title. Let’s start with the Amazon.

Magic Arrow: Decked out build might reach 40% conversion to magical and that doesn’t quite qualify her as a mage. And the archetype of the amazon is a full blown mage. I have the diablo archetypes plugged in to a wheel which relates them to the 4 races of warcraft 3 to prove this. The druid position is opposite to the barbarian and I’ll talk about the Druid’s flaw after the Amazon. Maybe the skill should be able to reach 100% conversion to magic damage. This wouldn’t actually conflict with the Necro’s bone spear if a % of his offensive bone skills were actually physical.

Second, magic arrow investment should enhance the other physical arrow skills to do a % of “physical bore” damage since we can’t call it pierce or penetrate. I think that amp damage should still be able to enhance the bore damage but diminishingly or only partially.

Third, as stated the Necromancer’s offensive bone spear skills should be a % physical. Classified as black damage and works with the Necro’s amp damage a bit, obviously.

Fourth, Druid’s Tornado should be a % magic damage since he is a mage. His entirely physical tornado ruins the specialness of physical weapon attackers in the game. Especially considering it works 100% with amp damage.

Fifth, Druid’s skill fury title should be changed to flurry and do cold damage entirely. Why? Because the Druid is suppose to give the impression that he is 66% mage in the same way that the Barbarian impresses that he is 33% mage in the archetype circle which can be verified as accurate by comparison to the 4 warcraft 3 races on an X and Y axis. I’d post the image but I’d be reported for spam. Plus the skill name Fury already conflicts with another skill named Fury in the game.

Let’s do a technical evaluation though to prove this without the visual diagram.

Druid elemental skills = 33% mage
Re-castable summons(half mage/warrior) = 16.5% (= 49.5%)
Fire Claws = 3.3%
Shockwave = 3.3%
Rabies = 3.3% (i’d say the function qualifies this psn as mage)
Spirit Wolf = 1.6% (since it’s already half been accounted for)
Werewolf and Werebear transformations, let’s say count as 1.6% a piece

60.9+3.2 = 64.1%

We still fall short of that 66% or 2/3rds impression that the Druid is a mage in comparison to the barb that clearly impresses as 33% mage since 1/3rd of all his skills are warcries.

What’s the solution? Clear, obvious and necessary all along…

Change Fury to Flurry and have it do cold damage instead of physical.

Boom, the Druid is now where he’s suppose to be, and like I said, I have the diagram to prove this generally and visually as well, along with how the Bowazon needs to ultimately favor the mage classification also.

I truly believe that Blizzard is hoping that no one reads this because if enough people got on board with it, it would be the gateway to truly leveraging things into the right direction that never was and force the admission of guilt.

How? Because I have the global pareto optimal moral policy diagram for this game right here in front of me which proves a lot, and it will soon prove everything.

Removed response corrected after the replies on this thread.

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It should be realized that I’m in a position to make the situation very complicated and to make everyone look really effin bad with my diagrams. But guess what? I’m not going to do that… yet. Instead, I’m going to make yall look good with my Blizzard poetry along with an inspirational movie clip and then we’ll see whether the stubborn pride-boy decision making commences from there? mmmmk?

For those who don’t see what this poetry relates to because they don’t want visuals, I’ll just write it out…

Fights as an other, both for each other,
Fights by another, each all alone,
Fights like the others, arms like twin brothers…
But all family knows, that each to his own

https://ibb.co/R22rNX3

https://ibb.co/cbRhfkN

Now of those macro concept roles which you’re going to judge as word salad, allow me to explain and justify one of them so your narrow closed minded brain can comprehend.

Take the role of coco-support for i******* which is represented by the Barbarian and the Paladin. Why do they together represent coco-support? Because they aren’t just supporting others and each other, they are also supporting the very soloist roles that they fill. And if you can self support your own soloing role, that’s really saying something more than your basic supporting. Why? Because the B******** for example had to sacrifice armor in order to become an alternative soloist with berserk. And since the Paladin had to be totally different as a mage soloist, his sacrifice is trickier to grasp. At least that’s how it was designed, but it’s rather obvious. Blessed hammer while powerful is the most awkward and clunky spell in the game. And am I complaining? Not from this angle. The sacrifice is obvious though once compared.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/3003668246468466

No one should assume that just because when values of virtue are pursued that it automatically means the child gets thrown under the bus since those are apparently of lesser tier simplicity and purity. It doesn’t automatically mean that those values are absolute and are absent of virtue and should be any less valued relative to the other roles of the family.

What’s going to happen when I show that the simple values of C********* have been being used to irresponsibly fail at building people up from the bottom of society in the same way that B** B******* video game companies have used the simple values in their games to guide children to remain children. To guide them to an oversimplified black and white non-virtuous way of seeing everything which amounts to literally a grey area nothing of pure darkness because it is literally leading children away from the light that is the virtuous of the two color-wheels. What does my poetry and diagrams show? The hypocrisy between your game designs overall and how archetypes and races like the sorceress and zerg are obviously composed of purist values and fill the child role of the family trinity. But within the zerg race the hydralisk can transform into a lurker, while the sorceress cannot transform into a sea-witch that represents the mature clarist value of intelligence. The intention is obvious and aligns right with the same aim and motive of the greatest medical scandal of our time. YOUR GAME IS IN THE SAME IMPRESSIONAL ALIGNMENT OF DEPRIVING CHILDREN OF THEIR RIGHT TO BECOME AN ADULT(BY MANNER OF POISON IF NECESSARY) BECAUSE IT ELIMINATES FUTURE COMPETITORS).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7koRuL02sY&t=3015s

The secret cow level is that very psychological poison just as rewarding points for u**** lost is. And god only knows what other poisons you’re trying to contaminate humanity with.

Meanwhile, while adults are dealing with matters like this…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYBuXA4XkV8

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/a607b45c-0f97-4d8a-991d-d6354b9f8c4c/d57ga3n-31f7052a-998a-4888-841c-5514d19df7f7.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcL2E2MDdiNDVjLTBmOTctNGQ4YS05OTFkLWQ2MzU0YjlmOGM0Y1wvZDU3Z2Ezbi0zMWY3MDUyYS05OThhLTQ4ODgtODQxYy01NTE0ZDE5ZGY3ZjcuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.GYwZMCsvqqQtEbJdeftY5GWKZpsVVsjP9OOjJcuVkHk

Something needs to be clarified here. There does indeed seem to be a difference between the poetic realism of the natural biological world/family of roles(trichotomy) and the consistent poetic realism I’ve observed in Blizzard classic games(although they are very close). I mean, this was expected and hoped for. Well thank god I’ve discovered this for myself at least. It would have been way too disturbing.

I’ll provide one clue to this. The role of the child is related to balance… not merely just simplicity, purity and power… People have better balance from a young age up until puberty. Science.

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OMG, I clicked on this, then noticed who the author was… sorry about that.

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LOL same reaction. Just scrolled down to see who replied.

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The diagram hath spoken

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lol this made me laugh, because it doesn’t make sense.

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Welp, I’ve decided that I’ve had enough of this…
1.) garbage pride-boy atmosphere
2.) this non negotiable company
3.) my dis-credit as “but he’s the only one saying this”
4.) these long winded opportunities to freely express one’s point of view that everyone knows wastes the writer’s time more than not

and while I could easily add to that list, it’s time to stop putting off the most important as the -psychological crime of crimes against humanity

We all know that the lack of quality going from Diablo 2 to Diablo 3 is the lesser sense of raw role, not “an actors part in a play or movie.” To have raw roles you need a sense of trichotomy between 3 archetypes where none are polar opposite to each other and do we see this with the Barbarian, Assassin and Sorceress? Yes. Because while the Barbarian would be the tank, and the Sorceress would be the cannon, they do not absolutely oppose each other as the Barbarian is casting spells with 1/3rd of this kit, which renders him partially a mage like the sorceress. Now the surest way for the 3rd role in my so called “trinity” to be disqualified in forming this tri-set of “raw-roles” is for the archetype to be both a tank in one mode and a cannon in another. This is why I go with the Assassin to fill the position over the Javazon. But even if I went with the Javazon an argument could be made that she isn’t just mostly a ranged purist with purely lightning damage on Lightning Fury, but she is also mostly a melee clarist with mostly physical damage melee skills which align with the melee clarist theme of the Barbarian and the Ranged purist theme of the Sorceress. Now the Barbarian does break that rule with berserk, but he does so through sacrifice which makes it a legitimate break. But it still ends up being the Assassin that fills the 3rd of this tri-set of raw-roles. Now it should be noted that we do get a sense of the Barbarian representing a Lion with “Calls”(CTA), the Assassin representing the Tiger with… well Tiger Strike, and the Sorceress representing the Hyena as the Female Leader with Teleport. This will end up being very handy later on as evidence for a trinity of concepts that each of these archetypes represents, but I could mostly nail the expression as the Prime Support: Barbarian, Prime Soloist: Assassin and Prime Dependant: Sorceress.

So now that a solid point has been made about the lack of raw-roles in Diablo 2 vs Diablo 3, we can now start to reveal the deception from one to the other.

See how the stat of Energy became Intelligence in order to initially associate the tri-set of raw-roles with 4 stat types that do not represent a trinity(as strength and energy are interchangeable words), but then once Intelligence replaced Energy in Diablo 3 we ended up with a tri-set of raw-role stats that ends up being even more trinitarian than Strength, Agility and Intelligence that we find in games like Dota 2? That’s because Dexterity really separates and distinguishes itself from Strength and Intelligence while Agility actually associates more with Strength.

Conclusion? a deceptive inversion occurred here that stole the legitimacy of Diablo 2’s raw-roles and transformed it into the lip-stick for a pig(Diablo 3)

But this suppression of the sense that Intelligence could have ever replaced Energy in Diablo 2 went WAYYY beyond that with what is represented by the emphasis of Mass Cow Slaughter in 2’s gameplay…

Let’s start with the first diagram that will knock out two birds with one stone here.

https://ibb.co/3TbV3vS

Here we see the archetype of the Sea Witch representing the Clear Value of Intelligence next to the Sorceress that represents the Pure Value of Wisdom. We can also note that this value wheel is legitimate and aligns Diablo archetypes with the races of Warcraft 3 in such a way that those archetypes legitimately represent each race. The Barbarian represents the Orcs(Grunt). The Javazon represents the Humans(Griffon Rider). The Druid represents the Night Elves(Druids of Talon/Claw) and the Sorceress represents the Undead? (note: Druid opposite to the Barb where we know that the Druid should be 2/3rds mage properly.) Well that kind of fell short at the end there but I’m pretty sure that any veteran of Diablo can explain how the Sorceress represents the Undead. Just consider the Vampire of Trang-ouls set against how Blizzard “doesn’t believe in heroes that steal from the primary skills and playstyles of other heroes” EXCEPT in this one case! And it doesn’t become any more obvious then that when Elemental Mastery is practically the core identification of this hero. Finally, we know that the Sea Witch represents Intelligence from Warcraft 3 itself! Now the question has to be asked and answered. What does the Sorceress have to do with the Sea-Witch?

Well that was already at least partially addressed in the OP with my consistent poetry that bridges Starcraft to Diablo showing that Zerg as 1 of 3 races hallmark’s the capability of Transformation(hydralisk to lurker) as differentiated from each Terran and Protoss in the same light that how the Sorceress WOULD differ from the Assassin and the Barbarian. So all we have to do is make a point that Transformation is an ability that the Sorceress should have always had. And that point is made in the next diagram.

https://ibb.co/fYxD7wf

And now that we see that a Transforming Sorceress would have perfectly fit in to the game overall, the question becomes… What would the Sorceress have transformed in to? Well in order to differ from the Druid’s transformation properly, let’s use the word transfusion which is made fathomable by the diablo image in the OP. The transformation of the Sorceress representing the pure value of wisdom into the Sea Witch representing the clear value of Intelligence under ONE identity is obvious. This association can clearly be made in the next image…

https://ibb.co/hdXs6Hq

Now as you can see in that image, it is finally revealed that the female humanoid cow represents the what? The high strength, female, missing archetype from Diablo 2 that would complete the symmetry of a Diablo 2 with 8 prime archetypes as a symmetrical value(8) that plays in the same fighting style as the cow. And how do we prove that an archetype like that and of a female sex is missing? Just consult the next diagram…

https://ibb.co/zFGhRf1

And now it’s ever so clear what the intention is and has been all along. The attack on the cow that represents Intelligence is an aim to suppress the identity of the “pure child” from becoming a “clear adult”. But consider how that would knock out 3 birds with one stone when we note that the cow is obviously female and has a blend of black and white coloring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7koRuL02sY&t=3015s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwfCO_1pxl0&t=70s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qqKWVOxIV0

Aye, now let’s take a look at that global pareto optimal moral policy…

https://ibb.co/dbdXW3v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJ9vCVWUVE

“With a call to arms, till death do us part”

But we see what you originally did there… You replaced the Sea Witch with an Animal to replace the radical good of the child with the radical evil of the animal while the Necromancer Cannibalized the Sorceress’ half completed identity…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-5xyCwH0mk

V—Quick! Everyone thank Zaman for his contribution to the cause!—V

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Cristal clear…absolutely!! Quite irrefutable…

Who else was missing the seasonal word salad, from our resident thrift store ‘philosopher’!?

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Here you are obviously trying to challenge the opposing consideration where I would otherwise be a resident consignment enterprise Philosopher, Mathematician and Scientist, and maybe you would receive more responses to your public inquiry if you were right. So I’ll help you out. You want philosophy that is legitimately considerate to the child in a video-game realm aye? Well I hope I don’t disappoint…

Philosophy:
You may or may not have been able to read my long winded criticism of the Nietzsche in one of my recent posts, but now I feel it is time to simply bash his “slave revolt” theory once and for all. Let’s review a point from the following video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2F-T0sJfMQ&t=1208s

Point: “this slave revolt has been going on for the last 2000s years and it’s been victorious”

“So you say to Nietzsche, there couldn’t have been anyone who really and honestly thought that war and aggression were good and that kindness and humility were bad… and Nietzsche’s response would be “that’s just how deep in it you are.””

But what Nietzsche severely neglects is the angle of perceiving the knightly mode of valuation as a parental role and the priestly mode of valuation as the role of the child. And if it’s true that “it’s easier to build strong children than it is to repair broken men”-Fredrick Douglas and that the more Reactive you are, the more capable your Memory is, and I’m trying to make the point that that is because children are or at least can be more powerful than adults considering a balancing aspect of fragility… Then here is the example of how Nietzsche would have very well responded to my point.

Nietzsche: I and many others do not REMEMBER a time when the “emotionally reactive child” was more powerful than the “animalistic zombified adult”…

My response: Well, that’s just how deep in it you are!!!

Whether the actual parent of others or the spiritual parent of self, the parent in one way or another has failed the opportunity and responsibility to properly develop that power in to a LEGITIMATE power that’s ever so much greater than the supposed power of the knightly mode of valuation…

But power is truly a terrible and insufficient word here.

Let’s go with qualitative virtue. And that would naturally make sense because we don’t naturally perceive children as having the potential to attain qualitative virtue… We endow them as simple and pure.

Math:
Prelude Reference: The pride-boy told me that I should stop humiliating myself… But then I unleashed the monster, the giant and said “where is your faith man?” -The Moon Magician

“Hey you, don’t tell me there’s no hope at all,
together we stand, divided we fall” -Pink Floyd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soL8JK6kALc&t=255s

And yet, every potentially significant idea should be politicized in order to test how united we are…

That’s why I’m going to say, I believe there are 2 kinds of people. Those who believe in mirrorcles (yes mirror) and those who do not. I believe in mirrorcles in the same way that I believe reality to be just and moral. In the same way that there are still enabling laws in science to discover, in the same way that nature’s design achieves a diversity of legitimate roles. In the same way that the color wheel of light is fundamentally virtuous.(quality by contrast under the same classification). And finally, I believe that you’re simply a careless loser if you don’t believe in these things and are contributing to the problem… no offense.

This post is not going to be for the faint of heart, but there’s no doubt that people at least need to be aware of this. So if you’re going to read this then I suggest that you take your calming meds or if you are a gamer then get in to the mindset that there surely are some radical changes on the horizon for the video-game industry which we just have no idea what kind of greatness could emerge in the same way that we don’t know what the enabling laws of the future of the biosphere will be.

Now’s the time for the Moon Magician to shine…

I’m about to form a mathematical proof that the number 3 and 5 are actually composite numbers and 12 and 20 are primes, and that “geometric political witchcraft” is a thing, if but not at least a legitimate concern.

So by a decent logical standard if 2 is prime then 20 has to be prime. Duh, remember that 0 is excluded. And then 12 is also a prime because 1 has been excluded. These are Math’s very own rules, but now to add my own. Any numeric values that are a factor or multiple of 12 or 20 is determined to be prime or composite by the amount of times that the factor multiplies in or the multiple divides out. So take the number 6 for instance. It goes into 12 a total of 2 times. This makes 6 a prime number. And 3? a total of 4 times, so that makes 3 a composite number. Now you may catch on to the future confliction of this rule with the number of times that 2 goes in to 20 which is 10. You say, “aha! , your theory is a fraud because it only falsely concludes that 2 is a prime number” and I say, “but wait… how could the number 10 be a composite number when 1 and 0 have been omitted from being prime or composite?” Now there’s also one more rule that has to be added to this… any number that factors into another the same amount of times of the number itself automatically renders the multiple a composite(at this point I realized the staggered alternating pattern of primes and composites of the multiples of 2 and 3 that is at least partially justified by the rule that all 1s and 0s are omitted in the evaluation). Therefore this makes 4 composite. So have a seat there pride-boy and let the faith-man teach you something.

Now, in this following image I have the original numeric values properly and logically associated with each geometric component. But as you can see, there is no political divide between those numbers as they are all prime. So in order to shift the left side to “true prime” and the right side to “true composite”, the entire set of numbers had to be multiplied by 4. The number 20 associates with the circle because of 5 and 10. The number 12 associates with the triangle because of 3, yada yada.

Now look at the structures that came to be when the “opposing political values” were mixed… Hmm… Those look familiar don’t they? Now look at the image in the comments where I figured out the 2 fundamentally legitimate ways of perceiving the “role playing game design” of Diablo 2. One of the most addicting games of all time released for P.C. around 23 years go…

Ok, so I went in to this math theory of mine to just try and fathom a proof of how 12 and 20 could be prime and 3 and 5 composite. Totally backwards to how we currently classify these numbers. First I said that if we were actually following the rules that omit 1 and 0 from being classified as either, then only the number left over in the double digits can determine the classification. Now there had to be some kind of consistent explanation for this. And there is. It’s that there is an alternating pattern of primes and composites going on in the multiples of 2 and 3. Well that then got me 3/4 of the way to the goal. 12 and 20 end up being primes and 3 ends up being composite. Now, all I have left is 5. Now I’m going to say that since Math was breaking it’s own rule here that I’m going to add one rule to this. All numbers that legitimately identify with the golden ratio starting with the value of 5(identity) in the Fibonacci sequence are going to be composite, but these numbers have to follow the 1, 0, rule just the same. So we go from the rule with a lack of applied significance to a surplus of applied significance to support the cause. So what does the golden ratio have to do with anything here? Maybe it further justifies the aesthetic realism of the geometric political components that emerges when cross-unified.

https://ibb.co/3Tg02Xv

So what did Blizzard Entertainment successfully achieve here? I say, a “geometric political witchcraft” that fundamentally united liberal and conservative political senses through the numeric value of 7 identities, (note: 7 colors in the rainbow and 7 notes in western music scale. Mixing all major and minor notes together gives you 10 total notes which just so happens to be the value of the second structure). But what I’ve also discovered is that 7 is also the value displayed in my Global Pareto Optimal moral policy. So when they did not properly include the Sea-Witch and instead replaced her with the Druid archetype, it literally replaced the intelligence aspect of the child’s identity(complete as wisdom/intelligence) with the radical animal and so they wielded “prime 7” in such a way to single out, exclude, and maliciously target the identity of the child, particularly the very value of “child intelligence and any sense virtue salad” necessary to value the child by tri-fold symmetrical justice…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-5xyCwH0mk

“You summoned a cannibal… you summoned an underfed ANIMAL!”

They broke the moral policy that represents the unity of conservative and liberal sense…

They entirely took a side in the fragile and powerful political situation between the radical child and radical animal…

https://ibb.co/CzVvcN2

https://ibb.co/jVqp5Sm

https://ibb.co/dbdXW3v

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxJ9vCVWUVE

“With a call to arms, till death do us part”

Science:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdtrGr41soo&t=558s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpnuAJGaShE&t=416s

“It’s not the way of being in the word of humanist secularism which is Newtonian. It’s much more… Bewitched…” -Stewart Kauffman

https://ibb.co/XybcHm7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl4FzzkXDUw&t=25s

Now do you think that you and they are happy that you responded?
AHHAHAHAHAHAA, AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

“Now I am the Ruler of all the Arctic,
The Flurries obey my every whim,
The Blizzard and all it’s Nostalgia
BOWS TO MY MORAL ATHORITY!!!” -Little ArchSeaWitch

Btw, after I got the Math theory fixed, I was able to bring everything together to make greater legitimate sense of everything in one image…

https://ibb.co/pysjfXN

Oh and one more thing… I said I would bring the Lion, Tiger and Hyena back up and their spiritual association with the Barbarian, Assassin and Sorceress.

So we have…
-The Roar of the Barbarian (The Lion’s Warcry)
-The Claws of the Assassin (The Tiger’s Strike)
and last but definitely not least… (unless you’ve excluded it from the game outright)
-The Digestion of the Sorceress (The Hyena’s “mass purifying clean up”)

Oops, did I just expose a little booboo? Where’s dat magic arrow Sea Witch?

https://ibb.co/Hd5StrR

And here’s a beautifully expressed example of that (remember the individually limited, cooperative generalizer?)