My warlock does like 100k but my poor little Necro only has a 2.1k bone spear. How in the hell do expect people to farm with it? They are stuck to use some horrid thorns mercenary method to beat down enough minions to CE the rest. Warlock kills everything in 2 seconds.
I’m just trying to understand why Necro dps is garbage in comparison to warlock and every other class? Why can’t I have a 10kbonespear with hardly any investment?
I like the warlock a lotBut he’s too broken to justify a second season with. There’s almost no reason to play any other class. Maybe a sorc or barb for hork. Why would anyone play Necro?
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Necro will forever be my favorite class, so much flavor.
Im insanely curious about this new runeword Void: it gives 1-3 to abyss, pair that dagger with an opalvein, gheeds wager, and MAYBE hellwardens and i think bone necro can do some interesting things.
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Bone necros were buffed on 2.4. Also, with ROTW, many support items were added to magic builds. Hammerdins don’t really care about those items, but bone necros could really use them. Have you tried them yet?
Also, I don’t do 100k dmg on my fire warlock, so i guess you are talking about echoing strike. That skill is just bugged; we just need to wait until the season ends to get that mistake patched.
The only change I would suggest for the necro is regarding golems. Being restricted to one golem at a time looks really bad when you see a warlock moving around with three way stronger demons… It just looks terrible in my opinion. Maybe it’s time to change golem mastery and allow one additional golem per 5 soft points?
Also, the warlock unique books look way stronger than unique necro heads. Is it just my opinion or is it a feeling that anyone else shares?
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How about nerf warlock? Bonespear is actually a legit build. Those things do great ranged dps and once you make a corpse, CE takes over the battlefield
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its not even a contest lol. just to give you an idea of how good at least one of these books is that it actually replaces Spirit in the Abyss builds. probably Echoing Strike build too but i havent tried that yet so not sure. anyway, THATS how strong some of these books are.
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Don’t worry, they’ll make a Necromancer buff DLC that you can buy for $25
and you will be called poor and stupid if you don’t buy it
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This is the right answer.
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If the devs cared, they’d fix it right away. There is no need to wait for the end of the season.
Hard points, please. Otherwise it’d end as Warlock’s “20 with items“ Demon skills.
Warlock skills should require hard points as well.
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True.
But to be honest bone necro still needs some adjustments. He is too dependable on items.
With basic gear like dual spirit, lore, stealth he has a problem to reach 2k damage which is just enough to be able to go through hell on players 1. Also there are no points left for CE. His bone spells require 100 points. This is ridiculous.
Less synergies is what this character needs.
Warlock nerf - absolute yes. No character should be able to reach 100k damage with a single cast
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No white is still better than void because it gives +8 bone spear over void’s +2 and magic damage.
if anything boneshade with the new jewel could be comparable to white except you can just put it in the new hellwarden helm. That with gheed belt are probably the only improvements.
Im not sure where you guys are getting 2k. With the new changes bs can probably reach 10k
Yeah. Even before the 2.4 patch bone necro was about 6.9k+ dmg. It is quite low, but it is also magic dmg and with bone prison and an aoe/range similar to a sorc’s lightning extremely safe. In pvp bone necros are paladin killers
We are talking here about playthrough/ladder start, not fully equiped character.
Ive played ladder start bone nec. They arent that bad. One of the best early hell cowers with little gear since you can easily amp+corpse boom cows.
ive also just max rolled a bone nec and was able to reach 9-9.5k bone spear with not even the most bis. If i wouldve filled inventory with 3 more pnb gcs it wouldve hit 10k just like i said it would.
Also, bone necs dont really need a merc so you can just run an a1 cold arrow merc with harmony to get that speedy speed for no enigma runs. Use hustle+boneflame and youll be fastasf boy.
Do we even play the same game?
You need a fully endgame gear to reach 10k now
Before Rotw it wasnt possible to get more than like 7k.
If you want CE to be effective on cows with basic gear you need strong merc to get 1st corpse. Bone necro is my main character and I know everything about it. I played him in the first season and i reached only 5.5k damage with bonespear having very good gear with skillers.
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Ideally youre always maxing damage but raw power isnt always the best strategy. For example, i would want to prioritize my casting and recovery frames before focusing on damage because i can achieve higher average damage than someone casting 10k spears at a lower rate, and sometimes you use an ability or an item for what it can do.
Void seems great because i can pull a bunch of monsters into a single point abd follow up with a train for piercing bonespears!
Void just looks so enticing for so many builds
You really only need the new charm, jewel, and hellwarden helm to reach 9k with stuff like a 3pnb amy and vipermagi, boneflame/darkforce, 3bs white wand, arach, etc. i literally made the build not as optimal as it could be and still hit 9k, its 10k with gg sling ring/opal/gheeds.
And no, at that point you dont need a strong merc for cows. A couple bs is all you need to get a cow down for the ce.
You can shop a 3 bs white in normal drog, then hellwarden helm, viper, spirit shield, trang gloves. That right there is 9frame bs, no arachs fcr rings or amy. All that gear is easy to get.
9k spears @ 9 frames with that? wow, necro got buffed big, huh? now i really want to make this runeword.
What runeword? The void rw is bad for bonespear because you get +8 bone spear from white.
The 9k is just from the hellwarden helm, the new magic jewel and a magic sunder with magic skill damage.
Because all necro builds use CE? Or they are bad.
Wow. . build diversity here i come
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I always felt CE was a cop-out. The fact is they undertuned magic damage skills but also made concentration work on hammers because… because.
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