Necro summon build is broken

Hello,

This has been bugging me for a long time…

Im trying to experiment with a summon/bone spear necro build.

Out door areas I can defeat almost anything with ease, but enter an indoor area such as the sewers in act 3 or the maggot layer and the entire build grinds to a crawl.

Skeletons attack the minions which keep getting resurrected. If I go to try and kill the enemy doing the resurrecting my skeles don’t follow and attack my target so it becomes a 15 min grind of trying to resurrect the fallen enemies before they do.

It’s doable but just takes so much longer than if your in an open area. It’s not a grind in a good way. It’s frustrating and feels like a design flaw.

Surely they could update it so minions either attack my target or attack the highest rated first.

Sorry rant over.

You gotta get an offhand staff w/ teleport to reposition until you get engima.

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You can buy the staff at lvl 18 in act 3 or the attract skill may help in some cases. Killing summoners for instance.

This really is your best bet. One of my first characters on console was a summoner/CE Necro and I struggled so badly with tight spots like the maggot lair. Got lucky and found an amulet with teleport charges that I used until I found a Naj’s staff for off-hand. It’s pretty much mandatory to navigate through corridors with your army.

i tried the staff with teleport and god… the repair cost is crazy

Ort + any chipped gem in the cube will repair and recharge it.

Hybrid Summoners don’t work too well, because there aren’t enough points to go around. Bone spear should be perfect for the maggot lair, but it’s probably not doing much of anything because you didn’t commit to it. You are probably better off focusing on skeletons, and using your 1 point corpse explosion. Once you get to higher level, and have good gear, you can try and make it more variable, but it’s probably not a good idea to level that way.

Summoner relies heavily on the merc with decent gear. Best one for the build is Act 2 ‘might’ i believe. Teleport isn’t really needed but helps for positioning, as stated above.

I disagree with this. Summoner is great at every stage of the game. They do benefit from having a high end merc, but they don’t rely heavily on it. You can easily farm end game areas with nothing more than a crappy insight on your merc.

Well, that’s end game… so what?

So at what point are you suggesting that they need to rely heavily on a decently geared merc?

My point is that isn’t the case. Summon necro doesn’t need much to be effective. A summon Necro in a budget it still a great character.

You obviously get carried on PC and don’t solo enough in hell difficulty.

Sure ohhh wise and great one.

That’s a pretty poor assumption, considering we are on the console board, and multiplayer is almost non existent.

It shouldn’t be hard for you to elaborate on a point that you made, unless you just aren’t confident about your position. Attacking me doesn’t prove your point, and you don’t have enough information to even try, so let’s stay on topic.

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I’m going to have to side with Looked here. I play single player exclusively and I was able to solo hell on my CE Summonmancer using mostly MF gear.

Arm of King Leoric
Rhyme head base w/ +skeletons
Wealth DS
3 socket helm with 3 PTopaz (got Shako AFTER completing Hell)
Chance Guards
Goldwrap
Rare MF boots
2x Nagelring
Crafted caster ammy with +2 summoning skills and MF.

Merc is Act 2 Might wearing an Insight eth thresher, Treachery non-eth wyrmhyde, and Tal’s helm for leech.

A CE Summonmancer really doesn’t need much to be endgame viable except time. 90% of his killing speed and survival comes through allocated skill points. Having a beefy Merc HELPS, but you’re by no means reliant on him.

Oh please, dont be naive. As if PC players aren’t trolling on second accounts with their 40 or so posts…

It shouldnt be hard for you to use Google.

I’ve saw people run hell HC naked summoner necro with a tp staff, it’s totally doable with trash gear pre d2r. And have myself cleared hell np with trash gear. Sure it’s not easy but alot more doable than any other class with trash gear. But a tp item is necessary. Or you’ll get stuck in hell arcane sanctuary.

Sure, ANYTHING is doable here. Is it safe to do? No. Will a new summoner player such as OP be running around solo in hell butt naked with a tp staff without a might merc in decent gear? No. Would I personally do any of these as an experienced summoner player? Bet you can guess my answer.

I don’t think you get the post. You don’t have to be a god level player to run away from the monsters that threaten you. Switch to tele staff and tele away as summoner your summons will meat sheilds for you. And all I’m saying is if you have horrible luck like me somehow, it’s still doable. Nothing’s safe to play in this game without godly gear or a ton of patients. But on summoner it’s alot more doable.

More doable than a sorc? Not sure i can agree with that. I like how you’re posting to me every month though, keep it up :wink: