It’s the fact that for 2HR it has ALL the best affixes as well as Teleport.
2 skills
45%run walk
Strength bases on level (extremely strong in regards to attribute distribution)
Max life +5%
Damage Reduction 8%
And a few minor things.
And
Teleport
My issue is that it’s BIS for everything.
MF
PvE
PvP
Perhaps if it was changed in a way that didn’t remove teleport but allowed other armor pieces to shine individually that are geared towards one aspect of the game.
Again
This is just my opinion and in no way do I believe it NEEDS to be changed.
It just seems to me that because it has everything for a lower cost in terms of HRs, there’s not much reason for ANY class to pursue something different.
It would be nice if there were more versions of armor that had teleport that were either geared towards PvP or PvE as opposed to a one size fits all maybe.
CRAZY how a game has a BiS for almost everyone huh?
Why do people keep feeling the need to post their thoughts on Enigma? It is a BiS item in the game and NOTHING needs to change about it.
I am willing to bet everyone who feels the needs to start threads about their thoughts on Enigma or crying for a nerf etc. are the ones who are sour grapes because they can’t get one and can’t put in the time to grind to make one. Just buy on on jsp then jeez.
Because Enigma is a pariah. Removing build diversity is a bad thing. If one item is BiS on every single class, it’s a problem. Again, due to removing diversity.
I have Enigmas (my 3/30/45/120 is worth a hell of a lot more than Enigma, just the 3/30/3 is worth more without the 40/15s). I had 24k fg within 3 weeks of launch (starting at 0), when Shakos were selling for > 1200, Tal Armor was > 3500, etc. It’s not hard to grind out enough to trade for Enigma. You are sorely mistaken on your assertion.
A more realistic scenario is that people who understand this game, and the basic economics of any game, simply grasp more on the topic than you do. If you understood even a small portion of D2’s history, you’d realize that Enigma was a knee-jerk reaction to duped/glitched items. Items like Ith, Wizard Spike gloves, Oculus rings, etc. Enigma is a relic of old times when a new dupe method was introduced with virtually every patch, and they purposely introduced mountains of power creep to combat the horrific state of the economy in 1.09.
Enigma single handedly demolishes build diversity by being the single best armor runeword in the game for the vast majority of builds. No other healthy game has a single god-tier item that is required to compete. Imagine seeing one firearm, in any FPS, that outperforms all the rest by every metric. Imagine being able to purchase one item in LoL, on any champion, that instantly makes your character outperform everyone who doesn’t have that particular item. Imagine one item in PoE that is a core requirement for every single build to perform at its potential. You can’t honestly tell me FPSes would be better off if one single weapon outperformed every other weapon, and thus everyone used one weapon out of the entire arsenal.
You need to take a logical look at the state of things, rather than letting your emotions take control. You may like Enigma, and you may like that your characters are awesome once they get it, but that absolutely does not mean Enigma – in its current state – is healthy for the game, its economy, or build diversity. It isn’t.
And is also an item that is not easily gotten by the vast majority of the playerbase. Players who use FG are a pariah, and the game would best be served if instead of removing enigma, we were able to remove players who used FG.
There will always be a BIS item(s). Shako is a good example. All casters are using it… should we remove Shakos now? Get out of here with your trash “logic”…
That’s where your blatantly obvious lack of knowledge is shown. A +2/20/2 rare circlet is WAY better than a Shako, by many times. You get Str, Life, and Resists on it? You couldn’t buy that with 100 Shakos.
The game was alive with an active playerbase for 20 years of abandonment because of those who use FG, and those who modded the game.
Your answer does not surprise me. I use facts, you simply say “me no agree” and go on your merry little way.
Your opinion is based solely on a lack of knowledge. I can back everything I’ve said. I can show countless pictures of circlets that outshine Shako. You can’t refute it, so you simply bow out. My perspective is shaped by facts. Your perspective is shaped by emotional attachments.
This is why people like you should not voice your flawed opinions, rooted in emotion, and stemming from an obvious lack of knowledge on the game.
Your “facts” are your opinion. I’m not claiming that what I believe is better. You’re opinion is not a fact. If I’m running a pally with max resists, I don’t care about extra resists on a circlet. I can go on, but your “facts” are wrong, you just can’t get past your own ego to see it.
Prove me wrong. I’d love to see your counter-argument in favor of Shako somehow being better than 2/20/2 circlets
As it stands, my facts are exactly that – facts. You can’t argue that Shako’s stats are better than a 2/20/2. You simply can’t. That’s why you haven’t attempted to do so. In fact, I’m just arguing against your completely incorrect statement that Shako is BiS for every caster. It isn’t, and there’s absolutely no supporting the statement that it is.
You’re just incapable of admitting that you’re wrong, which is a sign of immaturity. You should strive for your opinion being the product of a wealth of knowledge, not the product of a great and obvious lack thereof. When someone points to irrefutable fact that counters your paradigm, your paradigm needs to shift. If you find yourself wanting to counter, but can’t, it’s a good sign that you are incorrect and should learn from it.
That’s why you get a +2 circlet with sockets that doesn’t have resists. Are you that daft? A +2/20/2 rare circlet with +Str +Dex and whatever else you want (since you don’t want resists) is leaps and bounds better than Shako.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you but assuming the reason for my thoughts is because you think I can’t make one is completely absurd.
Especially when I already said it doesn’t need to be changed necessarily
I need enigma for my summoner Necro just for putting the minions on bosses, but I don’t have one yet just started playing this game in December and those runes are so rare. I think as the runes are so rare it stands to reason why it is so good. Personally I only plan on using it on my necro for the reason of tele stomping for the minions. I don’t need it for my pally or any other of my classes I enjoy playing, but it does seem sites like Max roll etc list it as BIS for almost all builds, does not mean everyone can get one let alone one for each of their characters either, that’s my 2 cents anyway.
I say give more (hard to acquire, high rarity) items teleport. Then all classes can have teleport, more freely (with a price and the active decision of choosing a teleport item over high stats), and thus it inherently devalues Enigma. That opens the door for barbs to teleport while wearing Fortitude, for example. Build diversity, good stuff.
Then add other high-tier armor runewords, consisting of runes other than Ber/Lo/Jah. Make them better than Enigma for niche scenarios. +2 skills, +FCR, +% ele dmg, -% ele res, etc on one of these new proposed runewords, for example. That’d be a clear winner for an elemental caster looking to gain DPS. Make another that’s +2 skills, high MF (more than Enigma), life, and resists (maybe just buff COH with more MF, but it takes BER so to that I say “boo”). A clear winner for MF builds. Rinse and repeat until there are a slew of options for various builds. Basically, make it so Enigma isn’t the single best armor runeword in the game. Diversity, win.
The major problem here, especially after looking at 2.4, is that they’re clearly not okay with bringing in exciting new runewords that can shift the meta. They want to introduce mediocre runewords with a HR pricetag. With that in mind, if they refuse to introduce runewords that will compete in the meta and have a solid place in lieu of Enigma, then I do agree with OP. Enigma needs nerfed if they refuse to create build diversity.
I don’t think the option is to nerf Enigma, however. There are alternatives and we can definitely balance by way of buffing other runewords / creating new runewords.
