So I have seen a few post debating which is better choice of base for spearzon.
I did some calculation here and not sure if I am right.
+1 Jav skills base on my spear zon set up gives me additional 259 lightning dmg.
+3 Jav skills on a Matriarchal spear will give additional 777 Light dmg.
Mancatcher base is -20 speed. with my gear set up of 65% IAS i get 9 frames per attack which is 2.77 atk per second.
Matriarchal spear base is 0 speed. with my gear set up of 65% IAS i get 11 frames per attack which is 2.27 atk per second.
Therefore if my base lightning dmg base on my gear is 1-4306 lightning strike skill.
using Mat spear +3 skills and 0 base speed, I will get 4306 + 777 = 5083 dmg per attack. and base on atk per second of 11 frames it will be 5083 x 2.27 = 11538.41 light dmg per second.
using mancatcher +0 skills and -20 base speed, I will get 4306 dmg per attack. and base on atk per second of 9 frames it will be 4306 x 2.77 = 11927.62 light dmg per second.
base on the comparison seems like mancatcher is slighty more dmg abit because of faster attack speed it procs more lightning dmg and with crushing blow on infinity it will proc more crushing blow too.
Please correct me if any mistakes here. Thanks.
There’s a few things just to throw into your thoughts:
- More +java skills will tip things more towards Mancatcher, but…
- A faith merc can make you attack faster. In this case, both spears can reach the 9 fpa lightning strike speed fairly easily (easier with Mancatcher obviously), in which case the extra +3 skills (and larger physical damage) will come out on top
- If you use Jab + crushing blow, then Mancatcher is still better for that
- Attack speed on lightning strike is somewhat overrated, as you will also be affected by Next hit delay, which favours harder hitting skills that hit less often. See Diablo 2 Resurrected - Next Hit Delay & Last Collide - Maxroll.gg
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Hey thanks Onadroig for the input. Guess have to get to know more on the topic u mentioned. Just want to summarised in overall which is better? And also which merc and merc weapon have u tried out on a spear zon and is better?
I haven’t actually made a lightning strike spearazon myself, but I think your answer is going to depend on where you farm.
Larger packs, such as cows will have a lower chance of triggering next hit delay, which would make the higher attack speed on the Mancatcher more attractive.
Smaller packs will trigger next hit delay more often, so the Matriarchal Spear will be better for those with the higher damage.
What merc/weapon are you using for your lightning strike zon?
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Really appreciate alot. This gave me a better idea. For my merc i am using a act5 barb with 1 hand eth headstriker and another hand a lawbringer runeword PB. To proc decrepify and santuary aura. Not sure if i should change to a faith merc?
A faith merc will allow you to get the attack speed of a Mancatcher with a Matriarchal Spear, a best of both worlds in that sense. In fact, you only need 40% ias with a Matriarchal Spear to reach 9 fpa lightning strike/charged strike, allowing you to just use highlord’s + 20% gloves and facet your other gear.
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Hey Onadroig buddy. thanks for the advice. will try change my settings. appreciated
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I did try both. I found mancatcher opens up merc options more because you dont need to rely on the faith merc to have comfortable frames.
Mat spear physical damage does hit a bit harder and make leech a bit better. Note just a bit better. Leech is still an issue with LS spearzon.
In total both works but I am biased with Mancatcher. If you cna get a roll with higher ELR, you will notice packs fall faster with all the lightning jumping about. Sometimes I see packs a screen away drop because of the jumps.
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I think you need some MAEK on your build somewhere.
Agreed that the ELR stat on infinity is quite important. Too bad that’s a factor you can’t really control unless you’re looking to buy an infinity.
yup this i have to agree after trying and calculating the IAS. I try using a merc faith seems like act 1 merc will die on and off. therefore i switching back to a barb merc which can survive better. and my gear i can have more flexibility. Shall play around with it and see how.
I probably should have asked what armour you were using and sort of assumed the use of enigma for this build. Act 1 faith merc is rather annoying otherwise. What are you using?
hey buddy i am using enigma so can tele around. I using a COA with 14 DR 30 all resist and 30 IAS and 70 ED. Act 1 faith merc use a 2/15 faith and also a fort and andy helm.