We can all agree that caster classes are hugely better at a ladder start. You can put MF items basically anywhere. The OP teleport of sorc is another story.
What if for 2.5 and next ladder they overhaul uniques etc und just add MF% to a lot of standard melee stuff, like weapons, gloves, etc.?
That way you are not completely frustrated and useless.
Good idea but yeah enigma is still mandatory for mfing even slapping TP for both sorc and enigma with a 3s+ cd won’t change how broken it is I really really hope D4 has no thrash like that.
Excuse me, my barbarian has 940% MF
Thats just dream for sorc, and i am not even maxed.
Double 6xIst weapons + Warcry barb? I guess your merc is killing stuff. (Me personally hate such playstyle). Most I got was 809% mf last I played D2R online.
Hmm in theory… with new Warcry 2.4 such a barb can be best MFer
We talk about ladder start and general MF while playing.
Ask a frenzy or Zealot where he can put 400 MF into his stuff.
Double isted Alibaba. Its pindle hunter, merc is killing.
ok, but i had smae barb with 740 MF like day 5 on start of D2R
And you can farm what, travincal? 6 times slower than a sorc?
Even then, 940% is extremely overkill. You shouldn’t need more than ~350%, especially if you’re sacrificing clear speed for it.
Also, the point is that sorc can put mf on her and still clear really well, while melee classes have slower clear speed at ladder start and putting mf on them would make them even worse.
The suggestion is one of the more sensible ones I’ve seen on this forum tbh.
I talk about melee builds. Fanazeal, Frenzy, etc.
You cannot do anything with 400 MF compared to all other builds
When i farm travincal i do it with lower MF and zerk+doubleswing. I do pindle effectively than anyone else can. When i want i can run pit with my zerker, better than any sorc can so yeah…
Except my pit zerker is farming pit with more MF better than any sorc.
Duuuuuuude!
Ladder start!!! For the 100 time.
Your zerker has no Enigma. No weapon. Nothing
I had enigma after week.
Not to mention you dont need enigma for pindle runner.
Useless to discuss this serious topic with you.
Teach me master!
I am willing to join the “Dark side” 
Its useless because your argumentation failed obviously when its facing reality.
My Pit Zerker Barb has approx 740%MF and can clear Trav in 20sec tops. Grief and 6xIst PB on offhand,dual nagel, war trav, enigma,chances, gold wrap, highlord, chamed shako, full stash of 7%mf charms.
What reality???
You wanna say a fanazealot or werewolf is MFing as good as Java or Hammerdin?
What reality?
The best MF char in the game is the Pitzerker by a long run.
Pure MF…not talking about rune hunting. He’s decent at that, but limited only to Trav for this purpose.
Enigma pit zerker
There are like 50 melee builds. Yet, you keep talking about ONE with an OP runeword most will never see
I think is no doubt when you do singleplayer Holy grail.
I think in online early start when you care mostly about runes, since its the main currency, Blizzard sorc or Hammerdin (now new FoHdin) rule.