Loot filter, question for Blizzard

Good afternoon.

I would like to ask any Blizzard member team if loot filters are going to be allowed in the ladder next April.

I have been reading that the Korean community is using it without any problem.

As I would not want to be banned, I would like to know the OFFICIAL answer about it. (I have already read a lot of different opinions from the community)

Thank you very much and have a nice day.

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Loot filters are considered a 3rd party program that alters the gameplay experience as outlined in the Blizzard End User License Agreement and are thus not allowed.

See section 1, C, ii, 1-4

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Thank you for your answer.

Just to know, are you from the Blizzard team?

Thank you again.

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No I’m not part of the Blizzard team. I just know a few things. :slight_smile:

Depends on if you believe that korean streamer who read a response email from a korean dev months ago saying that if a mod doesn’t grant a competitive advantage, it’s fine. This was her response to the item filter question. So that would appear to be a go-ahead. But again, you’d have to trust the streamer. I don’t have the link off hand, no.

It would be nice if blizzard cleared this up officially, here, but they don’t seem to give much of a crap about anything so don’t bet on it. The ToS basically says you can get banned for saying something they don’t like. It covers them so they can ban for anything, that’s how it’s written. It doesn’t mean they will utilize that at all times tho. That’s the actual question that needs answering.

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Confusing part is that Blizzard can detect everyone using loot filter/MH and ban them all by tomorrow… yet, nothing of the sorts seems to happen. It’s not rocket science to do it, their source code is literally on github.

Makes one wonder why even write a ToS when it basically comes down to “We’ll ban you at our discretion”… like, can we use loot filtering? People use it since launch. Is there an internal policy for this in Blizzard, if so what is it? Or, will everyone get banned next week?

Back in the d2lod days we have many tools which Blizzard allowed online, but now - its just a giant grey area and Blizzard not giving any clarity.

Confused.

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i don’t think it’s worth the risk atm, any DECENT loot filter is going to need to edit the mpq file for it to read the filter file properly.

i love loot filters. i run my own filter for path of diablo… they make the game insanely easier to read and way easier on the eyes. and my filter is one of the most popular ones choosen there.

all that being said… its a better use of our time to try to get blizzard to implement the mpq changes themselves so we can use our own filters.

its not worth the risk. IMO.

should we be able to use filters? yes, but they should also be officially supported.
i know how to codes filters, but they wont do anything without an edited MPQ that can read them… and editing the MPQ does break TOS. ( and idk how to edit them anyways) just the filters themselves.

spend your time pushing blizzard to edit the mpq themselves to allow our filters to work.

one they do that… is a simple as writing a text file and renaming the .txt to .filter

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You probably won’t get banned it you use one. If you really want to it’s worth the risk. I don’t think they should be allowed though.

loot filter is a competitive advantage though. SHAKO! In a mountain of gold, potions, cracked equipment, el runes, and gems.

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its not a competitive advantage.

first off being able to actaully see clearly isnt a compeition… thats quality of life.
and this sint a “competition” is the first place

2nd.
how would you define what a “fair” compitition would be and what would on an advantage.

even if this WAS a competition.

giving every single player the exactly same tools and telling them to use them as best as they can to try to “win” is EXACTLY how competitions work.

what would be UNFAIR is for SOME people to have acess to a filter and for others top NOT have access to a filter.

if you give “everyone” a filter and say " design this how u want"

no one has any advantage… thats how comnpitions work…

if YOU believe its a “competition” then don’t complain how other people are using the tools given and your CHOOSING to not use them.

if we are all given 4000 to build a gaming pc, and u buy a $150 chromebook.
u cant very well complain that their’s is “better” if they got a i9 and a 3060

no one is being given any advantage… everyone is being given the exact same tools.
what u do with those tools is up to you.

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Agreed. I mean, any QoL improvement can be spun as a competitive advantage. But I would suggest the threshold would be something like a maphack. Where you know where to go, and everyone else is in the dark.

But say, moving your life and mana pools to the middle of the screen so you see them easier – yeah we can spin that as a competitive advantage, but it would be disingenuous. Same deal with item filters. Not to mention, anyone can use the item filters of their choice so there is no advantage.

whatever you need to tell yourself bro. Day 1 more than 1 person wants that shako and they are competing to get it. Loot filter is an advantage.

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So just turn yours on to show shakos; what’s the problem?

Competitive advantage to see my loot in a solo game :joy:

1.) no one cares

2.) no one joins multi player to item hunt (as in 8 player baal), besides the same weirdos who go to Walmart on Black Friday thinking they’re gonna get the one 65” TV on sale… maybe that’s you

3.) I don’t even try to loot in multi player because my priority is XP. If my priority was MF I’d do it solo. If an item literally drops in my face sure I’ll grab it but I’m not purposely standing on top of an NPC before it dies to get a 1:1,000,000 item drop between 8 people

4.) loot filters don’t work how they do in mods like pd2. They don’t remove loot from the screen, so it’s not much of an advantage if any

5.) blizzard will continue to recycle other modders ideas over the next patches because blizzard is lazy and mods have already made amazing things happen with Diablo 2 so expect them one day in the future

6.) blizzard isn’t gonna reply here. You can get banned for using a filter for sure. You’re manipulating the game

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umm yes they do… but sure

i dont play pd2 becuase i dislike the dev, but in path of diablo they will most certainly have the abiltiy to hide specific items if u so choose.
mostly this is done to hide cracked items or 1 socketed items and shorted the potion name length

The earlier releases of the filters on here only showed highlights of items. They didn’t remove loot entirely from the screen. So you still had junk like minor HP potions clogging the screen, which to me made them useless.

Honestly I’d just like to be able to see the HD artwork that was poured into making this game without a map and 10000 words of text on my screen, so that’s good if someone finally addressed that portion

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idk anything about d2:r filters that korea uses becuase i dont use them. im taliing about adding actual filters

Would be nice. I’m sure it’ll happen in the next patches with rune stacking and all that jazz

The problem is that it’s not a built in feature, rather an illegal third party addon which gives players an inherent competitive advantage. I argued for the addition of loot filters before release, but since they neglected to add them … here we are.

Loot filters are not quality of life in multiplayer games. Even in single player they aren’t as it lowers the likelihood of missing loot on players 8.