allright i dont trade on d2j or whatever the hell its called so when i start on the ladder i intend to delete all my crap or give it away. im sure many will tell me what a big mistake this is but i can only play in one realm.
so here is my point: lets say that day one non ladder i find a shako and i want to trade it. would it be in my best interest to trade it for another ladder item straight up or for massively inflated forum gold? how much does a shako go for now non ladder and how much would a shako on the ladder be worth in fg? i wouldnt trade it for 10 million ber runes non ladder but maybe somebody would.
you can only play in one realm at a time…ladder or non ladder. the only hope for non ladder fg holders would be to hope to find ladder players with good stuff who want to go back to non ladder.
but let me ask you this…i found a price for non ladder shakos at 175 fg…how much do you think a ladder shako would be worth day one? how much would you be willing to sell your ladder shako for D1? i would not sell one for all the fg on the internet but not everyone thinks the same.
not sure what you are asking, you cant trade non-ladder to ladder directly.
you can technically give your item to a non ladder character and hope they will log onto a ladder char and drop you an item, but i can 110% assure you that will never happen in d2r lol. no one is trading ladder items for non ladder items. MAYBE in LoD, there were some non ladder legacy items (08 valks and the like) that may be worth alot. but in d2r. no lol
so yeah stop worrying about fg and jsp lol. its seriously not that big a deal
its so funny seeing d3 players and new players worry so much about jsp.
trust me, all of us have been playing with it for like what, 18 years? its not a big deal at all
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search for shako in the trade section. both ft and iso and start from the last page to get a good indication of the value
d2r launch and ladder launches will be about the same i would imagine
i have been playing this game since it came out in 2000.
But you don’t know that non-ladder and ladder characters can’t interact?
On a fresh economy everything will be overpriced until supply can meet demand. I don’t think shako will be that expensive though, but there are plenty of people with more fg than brains 
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have you actually been playing it since 2000? or DID you play it in the year 2000 for like two years? sounds like the ladder to me lol
Basically a non-ladder shako on ladder launch day, might be worth something like a Pgem on ladder.
Whether true online trade (if you can find someone you thrust) or through any trade site there is.
At least thats my best guess, haven’t seen it happen on D2r ofcourse but it is more inline with D2 before D2r.
Trading things you find on ladder in the first few days can get you a lot of forum gold, which you can spend on non-ladder or later when prices drop on ladder.
Shako day one…hard to say, D2r was down most of day one, few resets happend as well 
I’d say very rough estimate somewhere between 2000 and 10000 fg, but who knows, depending on the crowd might go above that as well.
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if forum gold is a form of currency that can buy both ladder and non ladder items then their is a theoretical connection between them. some people even think that d2js currency will bankrupt the ladder day 1.
anything is worth what someone will pay for it. for me that shako is not even worth a pgem. it is valueless. would you give a pgem for it? thats more to the point.
Well you need to change the wording of your post. You sound like you asking about trading non-ladder for ladder through trading, not through jsp.
Also, the whole argument about jsp is a waste. What can blizzard do about it? They can’t ban people for using it because how could they prove a monetary transaction existed between the two parties? Sure, they could add a clause in their tos that explicitly prohibits engaging in 3rd party sites to trade items, but that won’t happen 
no. i dont think i need to change anything i said. everything looks good.
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So you don’t use D2jsp but you’re talking about trading non-ladder Shakos for ladder Shakos using fg on a website you don’t use… 
Honestly if you’re using D2jsp you’re probably already late to the party for selling your old non-ladder gear for FG to use on ladder… once ladder was announced the price of everything dropped like a rock and will continue to plummet.
Once we have an actual concrete date when the first ladder season starts everything on non-ladder will plummet once again.
I don’t quite get what you’re saying here really… even if you’re not trading for FG, how would you trade a non-ladder item for a ladder item without getting ripped off? 
Not sure what’s your question.
Shako in non ladder is worth about 20-40 fg depending on def.
Shako in early ladder will be 2000+ fg as it is the biggest booster to mf characters early on.
Day 1 Shako might go for 5000-10000 fg
It’s funny that you think everything looks good, but most don’t understand what you’re trying to say 
Either I misunderstood your question or were completely not on the same topic.
I thought the question was what is it worth.
If the question is to me, well nothing probably, I’ll likely stop playing non-ladder.
I do now that there always were people that started the ladder to gain non-ladder gear basically just playing the first week or weeks and trading the stuff they found to increase there non-ladder wealth (or forum gold) because prices usually are through the roof on ladder and fall back to almost nothing on non-ladder.
So what it a non-ladder shako worth to trade for ladder gear on day 1 ladder, probably a Pgem.
the non-ladder market prices will drop hard when the ladder starts. I’d delete that shako.
No one will be able to tell you exactly how much is going to Shako be worth on ladder start. The best indicator would be to check prices from launch of D2re and adjust somewhat, as I don’t think ladder launch prices will be the same as game launch prices.
If I am thinking correctly what you want to know: yes the best practice on the start of the ladder, would be to sell all your non essential drops early, when the prices are high (be it FG or Runes) and then rebuy (if needed) them at fraction of the price once market stabilise.
Funny how many people don’t know how jsp actually works.
If ladder starts and you get shako day 1, you can literally put it on auction in jsp and see how much people will outbid each other until it gets out of hand.
Usually, it is worth it selling day 1 as in the next 14 days it will sell for 1/5th to 1/10th of the price and it will keep dropping until supply reaches demand.
The actual prices that stuff sells on jsp is almost always 1:1 to what it sells everywhere else.
So, if week 2 of ladder shako sells for a vex, it will sell for as much fg as a vex sells.
With 4 months ladder prices will normalise by the end of the first month and everything will be dirty cheap by the end of month 2
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