Anyhow their was a topic made by a user that probably violates the forum rules as it names and shames some one so it probably got closed and i did respond to someone else messages maybe i am in violation although i did not get an infraction or summat.
Down to the topic that went missing.
Firstly the topic was about a person complained about a PKer which happens to some of us in a public game and can be annoying.
So what some members suggests is use the passworded game now, i on the other hand said that does work and it also does not in a nut shell. (I edit my post sevral times in previous thread)
In anycase i stated a KICK OUT BUTTON which alot of people wanted. Then i made a comment about the way i see it blizzard is/contributes endorsing bullying as an unpleasant player can do this so hence bullying. Now i know blizzard dont directly take the blame, but they know this stuff happens and state everyone should enjoy the game. (do everything in you power then, this is not something new).
I know even a kick out button wont solve this but i clearly wrote it could prevent some of it and is better than a cure.
Then i followed up a statement saying why the password wont fully work.
For one many solo players (may want) and blizzard want people to play together as they say in their streams. So solo players or smaller number of teams might want a full game so they go public.
Then you have a server issue with hardly no games or nobody in a lobby that has diffiulty responding due to bots spamming. Also this lobby is kinda broken with all the server issues.
Even if you had a passworded game and invite public few… as you now have a big mission on a server that genertaes less games, less people in the lobby who are most likely AFK and still you can get one idiot in to ruin your game.
TLDR i was implying blzzard should give you every tool possiable to stop bullying, not just passworded games. This has been talked about and works well in D3. Lets be honest people who get bullied dont speak up so a simple kick out feature can help towards this.
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A lot of oversensitive, easily offended players such as that player have requested this numerous times.
It wont happen.
There are plenty of tools in place already to prevent bullying and harassments on the game.
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Again they still have not done everything possiable and unfortunatley we live with alot of oversensative players. Lets just say i know of a few.
Happens or not people should be aware of comapnies that should do everything possiable about it. Its not hard to do either. Also adding one like D3 style really takes away nothing from the game so its just a sign of lazyness if bullying was to happen. lets assume my opinion on lazyness is correct and bullying was to take place im sure alot of people would be unhappy.
In short i am trying to say should blizzard not do everything in its power to stop bullies and any forms of cyber abuse. I know their is always the report button but sometimes things can just get prevented. the longer stuff goes on the more unpleasant it is for that user.
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You have an ignore button, password protect game option, level restrict option, and as you mentioned, a report button(add in a screen shot for good measure)
A kick button will be abused for more reasons than just bullying.
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Quite frankly kick button will be much better bullying tool than pking can ever be.
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Well that depends on who is in game… Ignore does not work on pkers also do we have to now not let people who might rush us not in. I can see both sides of the arguement here. Kick out button can get absued but lets face it… In D3 you hardly get kicked out unless you dont contribute or be abusive, in rare cases it does get abused.
I would like to think their are more sensible players out their than abusers hence i still do think IMHO a kick button would be good idea.
No.
Same old stuff cycling around.
You are focused on what you want and you are trying to sugarcoat the pill, completely ignoring the real implications of a kick button.
There are not “host privileges” in d2r.
Being allowed to kick somebody from “your” game opens up a pletora of new abuse towards all the players, not just the “sensitive” ones.
Do you really want us to explain and list all the reasons why this is a terrible idea?
Also, why are you putting this on Blizzard?
I don’t get it.
You made it sound like they have committed the ultimate sin.
Next step what? Are they responsible of global warming too?
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PK dont happen in walktrough games, only in lvling rooms…at least walktrough rooms usually dont get pkers in them(yet to see a single one in months(including pre-remaster experience from playing 7-10 years ago) to mess with walktrough game)…think of it as most pkers have a minimal code of decency
lvl restriction to block ppl mfing is just stupid…but this got 2 coin to it
Player 44: “whine, mfer killed my A3,A4 bosses now i must leave because my Act 1 is screwed with Act 3-4 boss dead”(logic wtf)
Player 44: if i set up lvl restriction i cant get a rusher to help me with act 1, but if i dont i cant get Act 1 complete because A3//A4 bosses are dead(logic wtf)
Player 44: whine, curses at mfer for making room more difficult while just sitting in town waiting for a rusher(logic wtf again)
Player 44: Den of Evil is too hard with a few extra player in while i’am waitin rusher(logic wtf again)…excuse me but you should not struggle with that unless you built your char like an imbecile(put 1 point in every skills in all tree…every skill no highter than 5 point because you like diversity…or 2: you play as melee trying to do den of evil using a scrap grey weapon found on the ground in A1 normal thinking junk found in low difficulty can handle high difficulty mobs
eh well…bad new for you…if a lvl 15 lld CAN kill mobs from hell Difficulty on their own, what do you think it mean if you cant handle Den of Evil as a lvl 60-75 just cause of some extra player in ?..sorry to say but your playing like a major fail…early A1 Hell is a complete joke
if your a caster…immunities on mobs doesn’t change cause of extra players in…and secondly…your not as reliant on gear as melee are
back to PK subject…1 PKer vs your group of 7 in a lvling room you should be able to deal with it if a high lvl provide carry…in lld case for tombins///baal run in normal that might be a lot more problematic to kill than a high lvl in a high lvl room…but you can still flee from them//go private room…OR set up an ambush if your group has enough IQ to camp the entryway to stunlock the pker with mass attacks on them(at least thats the only chance to kill a lld with 7 junk geared chars) but that dont guarantee success…especially knowing group tendency to flee like a chicken over the option to fight back which would already remove the chance at ambushing due to cowardice response
anyway…no for said kick button…pk is fun…and also a kick button would be abused as another said…mf rooms would be a hell of a mess too if those were to start being a thing… "you took my fav farm spot you ****, “click kick” "…mf in baal run room ? “kick”…low lvl in chaos sanc room ? “kick”…hate a class ? “kick”…rusher hater because like to walk it ? “kick rusher” and screw the other ppl who would of prefer a rush
just no…weak minded ppl are a serious issue themselve…they just take an immediate hostile way when things dont go their way(even if its a minor inconvenience)…they cant even bother using some tool putting up some limitation on what can be done
The one missing thing is blocked players can still join your game.
A kick feature, while your logic is the way it “should be used” is not how it would be used.
I wont go into those examples but I will say, I think specific to this game…leaving it and inviting others to a private game would be best. In that, the HOST would retain privileges to kick, mute, up party, etc.
I don’t fully understand why we are still using a password in 2022 but…you know I’m not the developer. Games like this should have logic built into matchmaking that lacks…here we are.
If its a public game, it is not “your” game even if you made it.
No kick ability.
However. Due to the PK nature of the game there needs to be some balance. Any character should have a good chance against any other class.
Simple solution for this is to make players hit accept pvp button on new dialog ( do you want to pvp this player ?).
-i aggre with kick feature, its my game, why screw up my game by someone mfing my game with no contribute unless i permit it…
-lv restriction may work in low level, but in higher lv its not work, put 1-5 range? if my level already 92, i put what level? 93? the mf starts ruining when they lv90++, i do lot baal run for xp farm while the other doing kurast,chaos & pit, its so annoying af
-putting a password after someone ruining my game, the player in my room already in bad mood bro
-yes that a public game but i want ppl with same goal as mine,
-uhh but this is diablo2 since vanilla, get use to it, old school way!
here a simple picture :
I have the best classic burger single patty in town since 1998, ppl love it, as years come by lots burger seller are show everywhere, they have more variety, new menu, tripple patty, some offer vege burger or more healthy one,
but no i want sold my classic single patty burger! they should follow my rules!
; do you think i can compete with other seller?? yes i may have hardcore fan that like my burger but my profit will be larger if i can reach wider target audiance, follow the market trend, follow what customer wants
Good Lord.
Ok. Let’s keep the fast food theme.
What if the new patty you just made is loved by few new customers but, later on, you discover is causing severe allergy reactions?
Think. It’s simple.
If you can kick who you want, when you want, don’t you see how that can be abused?
If you don’t see it, just don’t worry because is never gonna happen.
It’s a very bad idea.
Absolutely gaurantee a kick feature would be used on someone like yourself if ever made available especially as a way to grief you. In fact, the type of traits you seem to have based on your post make it more likely it will be you who is on the receiving end of it.
Passworded games aren’t the solution. People bail out of consistent runs then you’re a man or two short and have to go back to public to find more players.
A good solution would be a vote kick to kick those pkers or mfers (bandaid approach). Or allow /players8 online so they don’t even exist (solve for root cause).
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If a kick out button came, players would be like:
P8 would fix mf intrusions without causing some snowflakes raging over small inconvenient
but PK is not to be bandaid…deal with it…its 1 pker vs your whole group…what are you complaining about 1 player is an unfair advantage on 7 now ?(especially that out of those 7 1 of them is well geared)(high lvl rooms) beside its not like a non-stop pk attempt everyday…the only rooms where its unfair is normal difficulties vs a lld…or an hld that would kill lvl 15-45 despite having a huge lvl advantage on them…but those room can block out high lvl from getting in so…in theory you should only get low level duelers as attackers in norm difficulty rooms if you lvl restrict them properly and they are much less common than high lvl pkers
Join a community of like minded individuals that not only promise but keep their word that they won’t do anything that the group doesn’t agree to do. Don’t want to PvP then they won’t PvP. I am sure that since we can play with a lot of people you will be able to find those that would be more than willing and able to play with you at a variety of times throughout a day. Private password protected games with those ones would cover it nicely.
So the almighty streamers command us to play in public games with others. We have no choice when the almighty streamers command us we jump to attention and obey. We obey because that is the will of the streamers as well as Blizz. Sorry but streamers and Blizz are not that powerful nor is it wrong to play solo which i do all of the time anyway.
Oh so I guess Blizz must add 100,000 different tools to help those that can easily take offense. You do know that there are those that will pick on you just to get the response that they want from you. That is not truly bullying, instead they are making you their puppet if you respond like they want you to respond.