Just reading some of these posts after a long step back from D2R. Looks like a lot of issues could be cured by just staying single-player. The online community will never be satisfied as a whole, and apparently the bots are alive and well. Business as usual for “Blizzard”.
More like business as usual for all arpgs. Still waiting for someone to show me an arpg that has duping, botting, spam bots and “fairness” all figured out. All major arpgs like poe have rampant botting and some have public dupes which at least d2/d2r have done a mostly good job with patching all exploits pretty quickly. Then games like Grim Dawn have zero care policy, you can cheat if you want. These types of games are not ones to get serious about, just chill and play for your enjoyment and with friends… moment you start caring about botters, economy, fairness, etc all these games will fail you.
They for the most part figured it out in Diablo 3…
1: Legendaries/Sets are account bound. (Takes care of the RMT/spam problem)
2: The higher the difficulty, the more items rain. (Largely satisfies the crave of finding items.)
Is it perfect? No… But it just happens to work in Diablo 3, because there are regular, ancient and primal versions of items, which is where the rareness comes into play. And of course there are the item attributes which can make or break the item.
There are still bots, but they are just leaderboard bots. which I honestly don’t give a about.
Could something like this be adapted to Diablo 2? I’m sure it could, but there would be a lot of opposition to it, which anyone with a brainstem knows a large part of that opposition would be from those that make money from the game, because the credit card warrior financial teet they’ve been milking would be cut off.
Right, blizzard made the decision with d3 and beyond that the d2 formula is too cheater prone and too expensive to fight against so make arpgs where it matters less but we all know 90%+ top paragon chars are all botted. Leaderboards for these sorta games are meaningless anyways…
So as it stands, all arpgs have rampant cheating going on.
There’s a huge chasm between doing nothing at all and having botting completely under control. Games like Last Epoch have done a lot to curtail them. The economy isn’t immediately destroyed because of their efforts. But here, they don’t care at all. And because of not doing anything at all, it’s not worth playing at all, for a trader.
Spam bots yes, they don’t care at all. Item find bots, hard to say, seems like certain bots are still getting banned for by looking at reddit & discord groups. But exploits and bugs that allow unfair play? Blizz still does a better job than anyone else with patching those asap which often ends up being unseen to most casuals.
Also seems strange to say from traders pov it hurts. You’re welcome to ask your fellow trader to give you less items for your trade if you think everything becomes too cheap too quickly.
Since the world is not shared or persistent, you should not have to worry about bots and hackers, as you are effectively single player with permanent online connection. And you can still play multiplayer and trade with people you know and trust. After all you do not control who owns the game and who logs in and when, how many hours they play or how they play, you have no idea, no control, it should not affect you or bother you in the least.
The point of online ladder is to have a fresh market and a new chance to win the race, that is the idea at least. Ofcourse you can be bothered by bots, spammers, scammers, d2jsp users and what not. Those things many of us has just come to accept since to be honest, they are not going anywhere. You can most certainly be bothered by it.
Trying to blame people for using the ONLY stable trade platform this game has …
Instead, they should be blaming bot-net. They refused to provide that platform. They forced us to find a worthy and stable trade platform elsewhere …
don’t blame us for using what we’ve been asking for many years for them to provide to us …
if they provided what the player base has been asking for, there probably wouldn’t be a jsp anymore … this is all the doing of blizz, they brought this on themselves and us …
jsp is NOT to blame, blizz is …
so put the blame where it truly belongs, fan-bois.
As far as the botter/dupers/hackers/cheaters goes … well … blizz could do something about that … they could also prevent it by not supplying overpowered runewords to these people … alas … they obviously & blatantly outright refuse to do anything about it … and this much is painfully obvious.
So, instead of bellyaching here about others … send botnet so many emails that they have to respond. If you choose not to, yet continue to come here and complain, well that’s your issue … quite frankly, we are tired of hearing about it. So direct it where it should be at BLIZZ!!!
LOL. No, sorry. jsp is its own site. RMT/PTW sites are their own entity. You know, the ones that advertise on chat in the game? You know, something jsp does not do.
No, no it isn’t. Please don’t let Oliasys drag down your IQ to his level and have you start posting dribble as well. RMT players are what keeps P2W sites running. D2JSP has nothing to do with them.
First, they tend to have stock. Second, they would still do the same elsewhere more often even if JSP didn’t exist. It would be traderie, or these forums, or another trade forum, or a discord group, or even in game. The sites themselves largely don’t use JSP anyways.
The thing that doesn’t make sense is that ber costs $1.
That’s not even enough to recoup electricity costs if you use bots to farm it.
You think pay to win sites have character after character full of items ready to sell??
No, I have come to believe p2w sites operate by doing a lot of trading.
Traderie is very bot friendly and I have had multiple interactions with trading partners that seem bot like.
D2jsp uses imaginary currency so turning that into money is a no brainer.
Where does forum gold come from, anyway???
Ber costs a dollar eventually every ladder because items are always in a downward trend. There is no item decay. And it isn’t about what a ber is worth right now, that is just extra money, they make their money off resets largely, when ber is certainly not worth a dollar. And yes, they day 2 have chars worth of items ready to go. Sure they might do some trading to even out their stock, but that isn’t what fuels their existence. They’d still operate without trading, they’d only be less efficient.
D2JSP does use an imaginary currency correct, but it doesn’t appear out of thin air. A ber early ladder costs 10,000 forum gold. They can’t just flat out buy bers to sell them for money. The ratio would be terrible and they’d be trading in the negative losing money. You could do the simple math to figure that out.
You think that njag, is secretly running all P2W websites as well as JSP? He spends his time buying up all the items on resets and then funneling them into his RMT sites to make money? Do you know how much work that would be? I’m assuming that is what you meant, but you do realize that it would also have a massive impact on the JSP market right? He’d be floating away millions and millions of forum gold, to do this.