Is Magic Find even working?

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I know that items aren’t gonna just RAIN from the sky, but I remember on classic diablo 2, when I was at the range of about 200% better magic find, items and runes DEFINITELY dropped a bit more frequently than they appear to be on D2R. Setting the /players command doesn’t seem to improve the odds any, and I think I’ve started to see that it actually makes it worse for drops to appear. I have ran Baal, the Counsel, Mephisto and Diablo numerous times on Nightmare with players set to 4, and I won’t get so much as a few blue items, and too many times to count. Then, when I set /players to 1, I’ll see rares drop. Runes, on the other hand, have DEFINITELY fallen off again. I have yet to find out in the wild anything higher than a SHAEL rune drop from Act 5!

Am I unique in this experience? Or have others sensed this to be true?

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Just rng, even with 1k mf you still aren’t guaranteed good stuff every other 50 runs, all rng in the end mostly i’d stick to around 300 tbh and gear more towards dmg after that to farm faster

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Rune drops aren’t effected by MF

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when I was at the range of about 200% better magic find, items and runes DEFINITELY dropped a bit more frequently than they appear to be on D2R

Magic Find does not affect Runes at all. Magic Find will only affect the drop of items that can be Blue(magic), Green(set), Yellow(rare), or Gold(unique).

And as far as I can tell, it is working. When I play my character who has around 200 MF, I find way fewer rares, sets, and unique items than when I play my character who has around 500 MF.

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RNG…between more MF vs /players 8, the latter gives a bigger boost… High MF is very overrated. 200 is certainly plenty especially if it isn’t slowing your kill rate down.

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I was just about to make a post on the topic, but regarding runes.

I haven’t found a high rune in two weeks of farming.

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Wow, didn’t know that about MF and runes. Cool!

As for the other stuff, no one else has noticed this? Cause I could swear, it seems like something is off. When I kill stuff with my assassin using Blade Fury, the magic find “appears” to be intact, as if I’m killing the enemies with my equipped weapon. Items still drop at the rate as I’d somewhat expect. When I kill things with a spell, like frozen orb, it seems like the spell is getting the credit for the kill, same idea as when a mercenary lands the final shot, except no magic find being applied. Pendleskin runs, general farming of Act 5, Baal… all of them – Nothing.

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hey man, ive been playing since launch and um is still the highest rune i’ve found. but admittedly i’ve found all of tals including 3 tals armors and plenty of decent gear so cant complain

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yeah, I have certainly noticed this about runes. When I killed The Countess for quest in Hell, I got a SINGLE Eth rune.

wow. -.-

But yeah, runes have definitely stopped showing up.

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I’m just doing solo cows, hasn’t been fantastic but did find a 30 maras so made for a good day. RNG is just tricky, one run 10+ charms, next none.

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… Can I have one? :smiley:

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It’s my first :slight_smile: it’s just purdy.

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well countess in general is pretty silly to farm if you’re wanting to get good runes. she is great for insight/spirit/low runes but hell cows + wsk is IMO best areas for mid & high rune hunting

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Oh, I only run her when on Hell.

I killed her for quest recently (in hell) and got a singular, low level rune. :frowning: I know it can happen, but I also didn’t realize that runes are unaffected by MF. I know they aren’t “Magic,” but i never figured that they’d be in a different category from such things.

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The the magic find off, you’ll see that it isn’t working. You’ll see a lot fewer magics, that’s for sure.

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Been playing 2 weeks or so, found a Ber just doing hell solo (in A2 sewers) Have found Gul, Lo, Sur, Cham, just farming CoD and Ancient Tunnels with my Blizzard sorc.

I understand the feeling of MF not working but it is mostly RNG. Just look at odds on drops they are quite low and 200 or 400 mf is not the same effect as 0 to 200

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Literally had a Cham rune drop between my responses :man_shrugging:

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oh, it works.

It also works on your mercenary. You receive a % of the MF he’s got on.

Magic Finding

What is MF?
It is “+% Better Chance of Getting Magic Item” property, that can be found on many items in the game, topazes are most popular of them.

What MF do?
It increases your chances at magic, rare, set and unique items. 100% MF doesn’t means that all items, that you find will be magic. It means, that the chance of item to be magic will be doubled. MF have diminishing returns for finding rare, set and unique items.

What is MF diminishing returns?
Effective MF=(MFFactor)/(MF+Factor), where Factor=250 for unique items, 500 for set items and 600 for rare items.
Is there a cap on MF?
Yes, implicitly. When you stack up your MF your increase your chance to find unique, set, rare and magic items. There is a cap on this chances. For example the cap in unique item chances for Act bosses is 50% (calculates from itemratio.txt as 128/(6400-(6400983/1024))). Practically you’ll never reach this cap, so don’t afraid to increase your MF.

Will MF work on Runes?
No. MF works only when item type is already selected. So with more MF you will NOT get more weapons and armors and less runes.

Will MF help getting better Items from Gambling?
No.

Will MF work with Minions and Hirelings?
Yes. When you make a kill, you get the MF% of yourself only. When a Hireling gets a kill, it uses the combined MF of the Hireling and you.

Does number of players in the game increase the chances for an item to be unique?
No, it just increases number of dropped items and thus the number of unique items found. Only MF increases the chances for an item to be unique.

Does MF work on chests?
Yes, MF DOES work on every objects: chests, rocks, dead bodies, urns, etc. See chapter 17 for exact description of object drops. Special chest have fixed quality chances, though.

How exactly MF works?
It increases the chances for item to be unique/set/rare/magic by EffectiveMF/100 times. For example, Baal dropping an Unearthed Wand has 128/1984 chance to generate unique when you have 0% MF and 128/992 chance, when you have 167% MF.

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wearing gold jewelry will not help you buy the wining ticket !!

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feels like im being trolled here lol, I ran maybe 1000 trav runs without getting a good rune drop, 2 runs after I un-equipped all my mf gear a ber rune drops!!! i mean wtf, i know the mf doesnt count towards rune drops but this really felt like it did.