This is how Terror zones ruin the game. Particularly how people abuse and ruin the game. How Blizz makes that so possible.
Blizz made immunes and synergies and other things to force us to play in groups. It was bad enough that teleport rules all TZ games and if your walking, your totally screwed. But now they want to make TZ games but you’re not alloud to do TZ, you they want you to do something else. They just want a full game to solo TZ in. And expect you to follow their games along when their done with zone. Then they make sunders so you can kill immunes and solo game, but most sunders don’t work. Phys sunder does nothing for barb, assassin, or zon. Fire sunder did nothing for my fire sorc. So soloing is only an option for a couple builds. So blizz tries to help us solo, while also forcing us to play in groups, and then makes zones to encourage solo play. These people are schizophrenic or bipolar or something.
What I really want to say is, these solo TZ people ruin the game. Leveling with a group in TZ gets you to 99 faster then ever before. But that’s not good enough for these people. They want more, they want it all basically. You are all terrible people and ruining the game.
This has been in the game long before Terror zone … But it was something like, I Chaos you mf or i cow you mf etc etc. The problem ain’t the TZ but the way drop loot work… High rune are so rare that no one want to play together, so when IT DOES FINNALY DROP it doesn’t get stolen in your face.
I agree. Those games are super annoying. I would often go invade the zone. Especially on hc where there aren’t that many games to begin with. Made me go back to single player. Hopefully terror zones get added eventually.
Mmmm, a nice piece of German stollen in my face… Yummy.
Sorry, off topic… heheh
The Scharms address the immunity most people complain about, but they still want you to crack open your wallet and spend to buy things like Griffon’s and Infinity, runes to roll a decent Flickering Flame, Nightwings, Death’s Web, …
Otherwise, the game is a real PITA until you get those. It comes from the book of social engineering, sort of like “hostile design” where they make seating in public spaces uncomfortable to discourage loitering and homeless people sleeping on them
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That’s why there should have never been sunder charms and TZ’s should have been really hard group content to begin with.
Terror Zones and Sunder Charms are a step in the right direction. This is fundamental flaw in D2’s design… This is because there is no /player x command and D2 is a very anti-social game.
This is why all classes should be nerfed to a point where they can barely survive P1 in trash gear and barely survive P2 in GG gear. This would prevent the 1-2 builds rule them all situations. But, if this is done then drop rates should be updated to better allign to this and immunities should be reworked/removed. It also affects mobs, especially the Ancients and Bosses. So, too many things to change, better to leave things as they are before more D2-breaking changes are introduced. Devs probably do not play this game, so they cannot make proper changes.
You must be new… This has been a common practice for years and is accepted by the community, we do not care about casual outliers like you.
I Cows U MF is the OG.
I was actually trying to figure out what’s the difference between the one of the established ways to split mf ‘I cow/chaos/ you mf’ and this ‘I TZ you mf’.
It’s literally the same thing.
Interestingly, I think it’s a phycological effect: the fact that they know that the guy running the TZ is having better loot and exp than them, because of them. Meanwhile they only get the normal /p8 bonus of just decreased ‘no drop’ chance.
And they don’t see it as a ‘fair price’ for just hosting the game.
I bet that’s the underlying issue.
I just join Baal games and split off to where I want to farm
Lol if you’re running just a naked sunder, of course it will be bad.
You have to get at least a flickering flame to see some effects. After you get phoenix fire sorcs become quite powerful.
Just play the game in your own way, why do you care how other people are playing it.
You don’t have to join those solo TZ game if you don’t want to. If you’re feeling left behind, go host your own solo TZ game aka “I TZ you MF”. Better yet, if you hate TZ’s but wanna level, just join endless Baal runs like before.
By the way, just because the game name says “I TZ you do something else”, doesn’t mean you really can’t go to the TZ in that game. The game doesn’t make that zone only accessible to the game creator, it’s open to everyone. If you so hate those games, just hit up those TZ while the other guy is doing it, will be fun.
You’re the problem, OP. From your perspective, they’re stealing exp and loot from you. From my perspective, any public game which doesn’t end after 3 minutes like a baalrun is a nice place to look for loot in lvl85 areaa. The more people are in the game, the merrier it gets (no drop chance dramatically decreases). Farming TZ doesn’t warrant good loot like boss drops at andy, meph, dia or baal. Lots of tz are badly designed for leveling without teleport. But, if you’ve got aspirations to get to level 99, guess what, you can open your own i-tz-u-mf-1 game. People who aren’t as spiteful as you for no reason are going to join your game…
It wouldn’t exist if it didn’t work. Don’t join and be part of the problem and they might fade away. Or join the dark side and take over their TZ’s as a deterrent.
Rich people bought 8 copies and solo TZ under 8pp all by themselves.
The people who ruin other people’s games are poor nerds who can’t afford 8 copies.
I don’t want to solo, but solo is more rewarding, and I don’t know how to solve this issue.
If you are talking about ladder games, of course people want more, the faster the better or why not to play offline ?
D2 does feel like it. Unbeatable mechanics until you get items that counter it. I think it’s the way of old school rpgs. Still those were legendary titles. Maybe we got lazy from newer simpler games.
This… This this this. Lazy, entitled, instant gratification, spoiled, ect. D2 isnt for everyone, never has been, never will.
On a forum full of questionable of posts (and posters) you stand out as one of the worst. And you make so many posts.
Do you genuinely not understand his problem isn’t TZs; it’s the loot system. And he’s right. D2’s shared loot is god-awful; this is just one of the symptoms of it’s bad design that pushes people away from playing with each other, and into playing alone in shared game?