My necro has been running fishy build and is about lvl 70 and i want to switch to poison but im not sure the viability.
With posion sunder, homunuculus, and a few budget pieces is the build viable or do you really neeed to go all out with dweb, a few trang pieces, and facets to make it work?
its going to be pretty hard without deaths web or bramble/enigma
as those are your sources for “life after kill”.
without those you arnt going to have any sustain
you could grab a greif or a plague, but, deaths web is really what u want
and they shouldn’t be too rare anymore now that lvl 86+ items areas are easy to come by
not having the sunder charm isnt remotely a big deal, you already have lower resist
and chaos has no poison immunes.
but it wont hurt as long as u can negate the - poison res
damage wise… you will probably be fine
i would drop homunculus and get a 3 piece trang, belt+ gloves+ shield
that will give -25 % poison res as wel as a bunch of other useful stats
to make it work well in all acts …yes
btw good luck on bramble roll, it really sucks with low roll
i feel its just better to get enigma rather than bramble, you get a tiny bit more damage with bramble but quite honestly i prefer enigma as its just just better overall and is roughly the same price with no random rolls
No dweb?
Use grief till you find/can afford one
No grief? Avoid poison till you get one of the above
Going hybrid bone spirit/CE is the the way to go before anything else
avoid if u dont have Dweb
Try getting a Plague maybe?
All depends on your definition on making it work.
If make it work is easy cows, can do about all content, you can definitely make it work without death’s web, even without facets (though I would advice them).
You would need 3 parts trang including Gloves and Off-Hand (I usually use Belt as third and Full set is not the best option but is viable so you could go that route).
Keeping Life and Mana up is more annoying without Web (especially life as mana per kill is easier to get from other sources), so without Web you would need pots often or get Prayer Merc with Insight, these heal pretty well if you can keep it alive (which often needs good gear 
).
However if make it work means, rushing through the game killing everything super quick, or doing it fast in P8 than no you really need to go all out.
It can be done with really random budget gear, even SSF, but you would be in for a rough time and make it work would mean you can beat hell with it, but farming is limited to only a few spots.
PS: White is quite usefull in a 3 Nova Wand as a budget version. Should you try the cheap version.
For starters, 3 piece Trangs is critical. You shouldn’t be using Homunuculus over Trang’s Wing.
Gloves are 25% increased poison damage
Shield is -25% poison resistance with 3 piece bonus
Belt is usually the best option for 3 piece.
Full trangs could be useful if Blizzard ever fixes the cast penalty in Vampire form.
The 3 piece is the starting point. A +2 or +3 poison nova base White wand is a good bridge to Plague/Dweb.
Get an A1 merc with Insight if you have mana issues or Harmony if you don’t.
He isn’t a rabies druids
Plague >>> Grief
Plague = dweb in cost
Grief = equivalent cost to completely gear the poison necro besides the Bramble armor 
You have already proven your depth of knowledge above so…
Even with Dweb, at the end of the day most of your damage will still come from CE for larger groups of mobs. You have to be really geared for poison to do any significant damage.
lol a tiny bit? Bramble is up to 50% more poison damage … 2 skills from nigma doesn’t even come close.
I agree that nigma is better once you have all the other gear to make it work, which includes a 2-20 2os nec circ and 2-20 nec ammy and other assorted gfg’s, in addition to having dweb which is a must w/o bramble.
lol? wtf does poison nec need life after kill for? nothing. you spam lower res and poison nova everything melts before it can even get close enough to hit you.
Gosh…why are you like this?
Do you need any help?
Did someone hurt you?
Youre funny
Standup material right there
We already have a d2 rapper (llama), and now we got a d2 comedian
Spoke like a true main necro
So your suggestion is, if he has a Lo in the stash, to spend it gearing his necro? Ohmygod…
Dear OP, dont listen to any amatourish suggestion, your main objective is to make a grief and a barb and go hork travincal before anything else, when you arent horking, leave the grief in the stash and use it on your necro till you get the runes/gear for him
No, you dont need a grief to hork trav, but it make things exponentially easier
In regards to dweb, plague and grief
if trading is an option, you can trade any ohm for a poor roled dweb
If trade is not an option or playing offline, take the barb i told you to make and go hork the hell out of pinddle, he is your best shot at getting a dweb
Pointing out your incompetence means I have mental health issues?
The irony is that you wouldn’t catch my use of sarcasm
Cham is cheaper than Lo. Plague provides +2 skills in addition to the -23% poison resistance whereas Grief only provides -20 to 25% poison resistance.
+2 skills with -23% Poison Resistance >>> -20 to 25% poison resistance.
A low roll dweb can be had for a price of a Cham or cheaper…
You mean you can trade in this game?
At least in HC ladder, for the price of a Lo, I can definitely get 3 piece Trangs, a low dweb or cham, Viper Magi, a nice +2 circulet, nice +2 ammy, a cheap torch, and a few poison and bone skillers.
Only a noob recommended Grief for a Horker build. If you are the one killing, you are doing it wrong
It also takes a special kind of moron to suggest playing a completely different class in a thread about a specific build…
He can literally farm p3 cows with basic gear as a necro… You may have heard of a skill called Corpse Explosion?
No, do you?
Very hard to catch any sarcasm when you talk nonsense
2x harder to find
+1-2
Again, spoke like a true necro main
You mean everyone is obligated to trade?
You should write a guide on this
Lol
Are you trying to sell any niche lameass build?
If you need a merc, you are doing it wrong
Barb is better farming wealth
omitting this from the op in case he doesnt know is a certificate of negligence
Feel free to be, im not
P1 horker trav 》abyss 》p8 cows with a necro
Like i said, a true comedian
let me know when you will release your special on netflix
Your point?
Yes, because it’s so difficult find a trade for a +2 skill Plague. That 50% roll makes it virtually impossible to +2
Oh sorry, I missed the part about how everyone is obligated to play how you play.
I must have also missed the part about this being an SSF build…
Sell Lo for fg, buy what you can use with said fg. Let me know if you need an “Idiot’s Guide” level breakdown…
Ah yes, you did such a wonderful job highlighting this in your original post before being called out…
You backpeddle well.
Which strawman are you tearing down this time? I have lost track…
The irony…
As long as you keep providing the material…
You seem like a prime candidate. Good luck and Good Day Sir.
you wont notice hardly any difference with D-Web unless your running p4 and up
Sure there isnt any point in explaining this for you
Funny how the same aplies to you
Not the build
But there is always the possibility OP is ssf or offline
Somehow using a 3rd party currency is better suggestion than playing the game the most efficient way
Go figure
Sure being one is require to write it down
Let me know if you need more crayons, my kids have some to spare
The only thing called out here is how lame is your knowledge about necro and gearing it out
Maybe you are one of those who only play it when you have an enigma and have no clue about anything else
Im sure OP can understand what you failed to
This one
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He can literally farm p3 cows with basic gear as a necro…[/quote]
With you its always a good laugh
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As long as you keep providing the material…[/quote]
Me? You have plenty
You are a whole artist and never let anyone tell you otherwise
No point in competing against you on this
It would be a shameful defeat for me
But please dont forget this…
Ok i didnt read all the arguments 
but what im understanding is without dweb, and with getting a good poison nova white base along with 3 piece trang and along with CE, i can do fairly well on p1 and cows.
But if i want to up to higher player counts and do well in ALL areas at higher counts then i definitely need the upper end gear like dweb and facets and gg circulets/ammies
Sound right?
You guys need to stop this. You remind me of my time with my ex-wife.
idk its pretty funny to watch hanz put his foot in his mouth. rofl
“use grief until you can afford death web”
ROFL
plague is WAY better than greif in this case. and already half the cost of death web and in this particualy sitation still isnt even close to what you want
and grief is more expensive than deaths web is.
even a cheap low roll +1 web is better than every other option for this build…
and lastly i thought it was funny when he laughed at “greif for rabies druid”
becuase while rabies druid in d2:R is indeed trash because… well it isn’t a 4 second capped duration and needs another synergy.
grief is indeed the best weapon for rabies druid
idk who slomo is… but everything he has stated… is correct
which is funny consider hanz seems to have no idea how this build works and has a necro avatar