For me is interesting, why so many bers/jahs/chams/etc. in the game trading. I have been playing this game for 20 years and got only one Ber and maybe 3 Jahs dropped to me. I have seen some streamers play 10-12h a day and also got only a few.
Is there duping or too much botting in the game?
More people playing.
Global server. Back in the day runes on US west stayed on US west.
1.13 buffed rune drop rates.
I agree that statistically more ppl playing more runes drop, but the consumption is also going to be high. I do not think that there are too many ppl who plays 10 hrs a day and they can support large players base as everyone needs Enigmas and Infinities. It is already 3 bers and 1 jah.
Not when most runewords suck and jah and ber are primarily used for infinity and enigma. Once everyone has those two things then the price of those runes drop while the supply goes up.
And yes, the way servers work now makes a huge difference compared to LoD.
yea a lot of rune get dupe , player try to hide this and deny this because $$$
They cost a very small amount of money to buy. Websites that sell them run 200 bots at once 24/7.
A combination of botting, duping and thousends of players playing. I believe many people underestimate how many of them actually are found by players, even if it’s very rare player per player, when thousends of players play the number of runes in circle actually become a lot anyway.
Some of them come from botting.
Some of them comg from duping.
Some of them come from players finding them.
Let’s use your own finding statistic as an example: You as a casual got 4 Ber/Jah in 20years. Let’s say you on average played 1 ladder season per year over those 20years.
4 per 20seasons. That mean 4 will drop per season for every casual 20players. Maybe 2x for hardcore players playing. So let’s say 5 per season per 20players in average.
If as little as 5.000players play per season to end-game and do a bit of farming.
5000/20 = 250
250 x 5 = 1.250
This is of course just a very rough estimate. But with your rate of finding them, for roughly every 5.000players playing there will be 1.250x Ber/Jah in rotation.
I’m at 0 zod 1 Cham 0 Sur 1 Ber 0 jah 1 Cham 2 Ohm 1 Lo thus far the past 22 years.
And to put it lightly – at a need of Infinity x2, Enigma x3, Faith x4 and Chains of Honor, I’m not at enough plus the past 20 years to even consider selling one single rune for other gear.
So.
It’s mainly bots, professional players and unemployed come in at a far second place.
a majority of them are from bots. no known duping exploit currently can dupe runes. rest are just from the increased playerbase
A lot of people realise they will not play enough to afford all that gear and sell their high rune drops to buy gear reachable for them.
Literally everyone i know or ever known playing casual not only D2 but ARPGs in general sell/trade their gear in similar way.
That you, personally do not do this, does not change the fact that a lot of players high rune drops go straight into the trading market.
I average less than 1 hour per day and already found 3 Ber 2 Jah some Lo Ohm Sur Vex 1 Zod and 2 Cham.
Now extrapolate that with a lot more people playing more than that and then add a bunch of bots.
Some guy posted 2-3 vids about his HRs from arcane sanctuary. He alone found 40+ runes.
Botting. The D2 rune market has always been backboned by botting. It’s a shoddy system, and as sour as it may be, without bots generating high runes, you wouldn’t have much luck trading for them. It’s D2, but the rune hierarchy is god awful game design.
What nonsense he wrote. Most likely you entered the game, ran a week for a couple of hours a day 20 years ago and at the beginning of the d2r / season. And now you’re complaining. Or you suffer from zero knowledge in the game and do not know how to use Internet resources, and therefore have been farming on normal difficulty for 20 years.
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Bots are a big factor.
Players simply playing a lot better than you could imagine is another.
First ladder season I found 18HR, and only played the first 3 months. Less in the last month.
You see a streamer playing during that 1 day 12H stream. But you miss that next day where they find 3HR.
So imagine you play better and have probably 14HR becuase you’ve used 4 on your characters. Then you’ve traded off the excess good gear for more HRs a griffon can be worth multiple runes or if you ID it it could be worth a ton. Same applies to many other items. So you not only found 18, kept 14, but you’ve traded off another 20-30 runes worth of items and boom you’d have a full screen on HR. It is possible for a normal player to do so, but you’d also be playing more than a full time job at that point.
Well, it depends on how you play the game too.
If you have an 8 man team and you rush all the way to hell in the first 5 hours, then spend at least an hour a day (the first week is always going to be far more) rolling chaos with foh until enigma, then seal pop glitching p8 chaos in 60 seconds, yeah you’ll find runes.
If you play the game without a group and you don’t trade on jsp and youre not playing sorc/hammerdin/foh/javazon build that is powerful without much gear and can also find uniques, runes, and eth elite bases, yeah youre probably not going to just find the runes for infinity.
The vast majority of people who get enigma trade for the runes from people who dont need teleport, which is why sorcs make up like 60% of the early ladder playerbase.
Botting of course. Yes many people playing but botters are rampant.
Raises Hand Yep, every time I get a HR drop I trade if for - usually - quite a bit of nice gear.
What a lucky guy, I have been playing around the same time this season 1 Ber, 3 Vex and 2 Ohm, 1 Lo. Never had a drop of Cham and Zod, haha
Usually, farming CS, Baals. Strange, but from CS only Lo and Ohm. Maybe I’m just unlucky this season, hehe
Always in the thread the one with “the best knowledge” of the game
I would love to do so, but /p8 command not available and I have no group to go with. Maybe bot farms operate in such a way where 8 bots farm 8 locations in parallel that should in theory result many HRs.
They don’t they just play probably 6x the amount of hours you do at the very most.
So they find more stuff.
Are you in higher player count games? Are you killing a ton of monsters? Are you killing those monsters quickly? Are you actually playing a decent amount? Is your build efficient in damage?
If you’re not doing all of that, or answering those questions yes, when in reality it is no, then you’ll find less runes than others.
Anyone who claims duping is just a lying sac of crap. Yes probably some private dupes out there but they ain’t flooding the market with duped runes. The real answer as to why there are so many is due to botting and China. Still, the number of runes found still hasn’t come anywhere close to being able to crash the market and make runes worthless like they were during classic d2 heydey from 2004-2012. Runes are still worth something so you aren’t totally f’d if you find one yourself.