If pvp was not possible i dont play the gamee
PvP is very important to this game. But I expect the changes to be made to PVM, since this game is a player verses monster and was not originally to be a PVP game. but it evolved and PVP is alot of fun. 4v4, 1vAll, 1v1, melee duels. not every dueling game is hostile and full of hate. just because some people joined one dueling game that had some bad peeps in it doesnt mean they all are. :X
Yes
Challenge
It had pvp right from the start and was always a mixed game.
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The balance is too poor for any sort of fair kind of challenge. Any challenge is only created by deliberate set-ups.
I find it that there is a certain group of people who think that Diablo 2 is only farming baal with S tier characters (and at the same time crying that āeveryone is tired of farming baalā and āevery character should be able to compete with these few S tier charactersā)
Open your eyes people, there are so many fun things to do in D2. PVP, SSF, Speedruns, all kinds of subpar\challenge builds, etc.
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Like it or not, this game isnt based on PVP, this is the truth. I dont like PVP in D2 even tho i was a main PVPer on any MMO i played.
It will never be balanced based on PVP, never.
D2 is a PVM gameā¦
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The longer Iāve played, the more I have valued pvp - other players are much scarier than monsters. It especially adds to the excitement in HC where the consequences are much more severe and you have to decide whether to play hide and seek, set up a trap, fight head on, wait in town or abandon.
I hated it at first, but now Iām convinced it is an important part of the game that adds to the experience.
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you meant d3, we been pvping in d2 for decades
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Did i say anywhere that there is no PVP in D2?
I say the game wont be balanced based for PVP cause this game is based for PVM.
PvP is vital to PvE and keeping the economy and game thriving. They are different sides of the same coin. Without PvP this game would be nothing and would invalidate a lot of what you do in PvE and what you farm.
So even if you donāt do PvP itās vital to PvE because if you want to trade anything from your MF character you better hope the PvP meta is balanced. PvP makes up most of the economy especially the rarest and most valuable GG items. So be thankful itās there even if you donāt partake in it.
This is why through the course of this game the Devs have always been careful about PvE buffs to not hurt PvP. (although there are some concerns with these new Devs for 2.4 buff) There are specific PvP talents as well. So the game has a very heavy PvP influence compared to most games.
Exactly and when you find good items on your PvM character they have value for these different PvP brackets. A good GG level 27 ammy will trade for several high runes because of PvP. It keeps PvM thriving because it runs the economy providing so many options for trade. Which of course is vital in a loot hunting trading game.
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Sure it is. PvP is literally half the game, whether you like it or accept it or acknowledge it or not. Look to the history of D2 if you think the game has never been balanced on PvP (maybe not ābased onā PvP per se, (though in some/many cases game balance very much was based on PvP), but if you think PvP isnāt a significant and integral part of the game and its balance, youāre kidding yourself). D2 is both a PvM and PvP game. If you donāt like PvP thatās fine, Iām not an avid PvPer in D2 either. But I at least understand its importance, and its role in the gameās balance.
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This is just untrue
The game economy adapts to the existence of pvp, without pvp, pve economy would just adapt, the same cant be said about pvp
There is no reason to have any kind of gratitude towards pvp
I dont care for PVP, but doesnt mean i dont know there is pvp in the game, i didnt say otherwise. BUT the game is based on PVM mostly and not on PVP, as you said for me, if you think it is based on PVP then you kidding yourself.
Isnt 50-50, like it or not.
As i said i dont care for pvp at all for D2, there is no balance, there are many one shots there and no rewards. I never said anything like, dont make pvp or dont hear the pvpers about balances but since the game is based on PVM, it will never be balanced on PVP, sad but is true.,
I donāt think that at all. I just donāt care about the PvP part. Iāve never had an ās tier characterā in all my time playing. I always go for the off the wall builds and find weird things and stuff.
PVP was the real Endgame back in the day. Whether it be betting runes, items, or even hardcore 95+ duels was the funnest, most nervous wrecking times ive had in d2. Dueling was also kind of a unspoken challenge to be able to beat the metas in duels. The trash talking and rage that happens when you kill a hammerdin or a smiter with a WW barb is one of the best things ever, nothing but trash talk and it made it fun.
Even BM dueling for a couple hours can be fun sometimes.
Theyāre making changes, but people need to remember they are going to be balancing for a while, and i dont see why they couldnāt do a pure PVP patch in the future if pvp gets too cancerous.
It is important, but not too the majority of players. I Voted important, because it is a big part of the d2 experience for them. Hell, imagine if they fixed the d2 pvp bugs that have been there for years? imagine being able to duel without running into invisible hammers just once.
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I think thereās a place for it. There are some fun options for PvP. I think it should be zoned though. I mean how many times have you finally found a good random group to grind diablo or baal after searching and searching for some player to come in and get pissy about you or another party member because of their build or what not and how its ābothering themā. Usually when it happens the party exits and hopes the host makes a new game and the ālittle princessā doesnāt follow.
So Iām for pvp but I think it should be a zone, game mode, or something similiar where itās separated. I.eā¦you go into a game to pvp or go party up and lvl grind/mf/chillā¦etc.
Because you used to need to login every 90 days. Players wonāt come back after they found out their characters expired
PvP is tricky, and ive changed my mind drastically as of recent, im not sure if its just being burnt out, or having played games since then, with way more competent, balanced PvP.
It can either be insanely fun, or just pure cancer, and so far on Resurrected, iāve yet to see one game without a mindless aura stacking buffoon PKāing naked people trying to get their body. (No, im not going out of my way to find a āGMā community, F u.)
Iāve been dueling for last 2 weeks alot and its basically the same old builds, with the same old cheap tactics in which you have 0 chance to beat unless you also have said tactic. (Including aura stacking from Town, Desync, or just insanely overtuned skills for PVP) This is not even mentioning the 3rd party illegal, lootbox, real money website D2Jsp allowing players to over-gear, or aura stacking, despite playing the game for 1/2 the time you have.
Theres only so many times i can die to an offscreen hammer, or getting randomly and mindlessly tele stomped by a ele druid, until i just agree PvP is not fun, and im not going to be a drone and roll my 90th hammerdin and javazon to kill people offscreen. been there a thousand times, dont want to do it again.
But theres still the main 4 builds for PvPāers just steamrolling public games in my experience. It really has kind of lost all its magic for me anyways. The lack of PVP variety, and the lack of counters to it has sucked the life out of PvP for me, and Iām starting to see how it holds the game back from further progression. I think it should be kept of course, but should never stand in the way of PVM balance.
Staying up till 4AM, dueling people for hours for holy grail items and runes, sacrificing your Hardcore character for a PvP match, trying out new builds days are over. everyone know what to do, and what to build. 0 creativity anymore. it comes down to who spent more FG on their character.
for ME, id like to see PvP pushed to the side in favor for some pvp changes, ive played this game for too long to pretend to like it anymore, feels like a chore im just used to anymore.
Pvp should have its own mode with settings where you can disable tele, poison dmg or potion usage. And probably tons of other rules and settings. It would make the whole pvp more attractive
Not even 1 out of 10 people cares about PVP in D2. Who would have guessed.
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Itās official game forum. Where else would you like it to be asked - pvp community discord with 20 ppl?