High rune droprate buff

Hi,

I just have a simple request to buff the drop rates of high mid runes and high runes.

I have just found my very first Ber rune after 20+ years of playing d2 and d2r. This Ber rune is my first ever high rune in 20+ years of playing d2 and d2r.

This means that, at least on Battle.net I have never been able to make the end game runewords for any of my characters.
I do recognise that runewords is not necessary to complete any of the content in the game.

However, it just does not feel good to have been playing a game for 20+ years and not yet have been able to try out some of the high-end endgame items.

I know that I can use mods and character edits in singleplayer offline games. But that is not the same as finding the runes or items yourself.
And yes, I know you can trade for stuff on Battle.net but I am a nearly solo self-found kind of guy. I only trade for items if I play with friends and the items drop while we are playing together.

Blizzard could maybe try to buff the drop rates for a single season at first to see how it feels, and then afterwards make a decision as to whether to buff them permanently.

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Drop rates are fine. Highend runewords are meant to be High-END.

Playing for 9 months now and I found dozens of highrunes, even a ZOD dropped once.

Better buff those 95% uniques no one is ever using.

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Droprates has been buffed in LoD already.

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You played for a long time but not in terms of hours spend killing hell monsters.

High runes drop pretty good. Got them all since d2r release multiple times (aside from zod).

I play Maybe 5 hours a week and find atleast one jah or ber each season, often multiple. Plus all the items worth the same Runes. The drop rate has ben increased in d2r.

I’ve got a L86 sorc, I play maybe an hour on average a day, so far I’ve dropped Gul, Ist and Ohm.

Drop rates for high runes are fine.

The drop rates for high runes were already increased on March 23, 2010 with patch 1.13c.

High runes were muuuuuuuuuuch rarer prior to this patch… Zod for example was roughly 20 times harder to find than it is now.

you haven’t been actually playing the game as much as you say if it’s your FIRST BER rune, that’s laughable to me.

can’t even count how many i’ve found. how many INFINITYS and ENIGMAS i’m made from personal drops is insane. upwards of 20 ber + jah each. and easily like 50 sur…

You have to remain realistic and also look at the circumstances.

If Blizz changes the game heavily to good rune words, then the current drop rate is far too bad.
Optionally, upgrading runes should be much easier in the game, then high-end runes can also rarely double.

If you don’t run RMT, or use external help such as tradery or forums gold, you are really very poorly off in the game with the high rune words.
The runes basically don’t drop and they only drop in Hell in the back files, at least the high end ones. And to be able to play there properly, you need good equipment again. So it’s a vicious circle.
A season is far too short to achieve this.

And it’s not motivating either.

If the game came up with rune words in the early and mid-game and in the endgame more Unique made up the game at EQ, you could probably take a different approach.

That’s also how I see it, that the runes for the good rune words are too few. For me, this is even a design flaw in the game. In any case, when you see it in the ladder.

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If you stop comparing your progress to those that use RMT/trading sites/forum gold which are all influenced by bots, then you wouldn’t think so poorly of your progress.

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It’s not about comparison, but about realism.
Nobody who doesn’t have 10 friends and farms 10 hours a day gets anywhere near the runes or the items to train their character at all, and we’re only talking about one character.
And even if you farm obsessively, the high-end runes drop far too poorly or not at all.
Which runes have I gotten that can be counted as high end in how many years of D2/D2R?
You can count that on one hand if you go from Lo upwards.
Here a few Vex ok, 1-2 Ohm maybe, a few Gul runes for sure. It’s not even enough to then use the smaller runes to somehow build the high runes yourself using rune upgrades.

And the other players will feel the same way.
Even the trade, where you trade for runes here and there, ultimately comes from the botters or RMT/forums gold sites. Otherwise it would look totally grim.

It is a fact and cannot be denied in reality that the game principle with the rune words does not work, at least not in the ladder, but even nladder you have to be really in love with D2R to play it for years and slowly work your way up.
Offline mode, you don’t even need to start.

No, it doesn’t really work that way. It never has. Even Unique never dropped for me with years of famrens like a Windforce, for example.
And run through Hell with some pretty crap.

The game is a real temptation to cheat or engage in RMT.
Items such as Ormus robes, with even more precise skills on them, etc. These are all castles in the air. Rune words are no different, in ladder mode anyway…

One big problem with todays gamers is they expect to be “done” with a game within a week, or even a weekend. By “done”, they expect to have the best possible gear, character loadouts, highest level possible, etc. Otherwise if it takes too long, they complain about drop rates being too low, or progression being too slow because they have school, work, have a family/kids and other excuses. If the devs cave to their demands, then the game keeps getting faster and faster and faster… Power creep… Sooner or later D2 will turn into D3.

If you don’t want to spend time playing games, don’t play games.

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I grinded like the first reset of D2R quite a bit nearing way too much for the first like 1.1 months then very lightly until the near end of month 2. In that time I found 36 high runes vex+. Even if you were to cut my play time down to hobby time you could cut the runes by 1/3rd and you’d easily have enough to build all the runewords you’d need for TWO characters or nearly there at least. Not to mention the other good drops you could use to trade.

On NL it is simple, just play ladder if you want NL gear.

And on SP LK exists so even easier than what I was doing to find HR’s if that was your sole goal.

The difference in our experiences has nothing to do with “RNG” either, I repeated this several times not only in D2R but LOD. The difference is YOUR gameplay and your efficiency.

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Guys just stop farming Andy and Meph on nightmare…

If you just farm the areas recommend for HR drops, you should average about 1 Vex+ per 10 hours if you play “casually” slow.

It is so simple to gain HRs:

  1. Play the game, loot stuff.
  2. Sell stuff for Ists (or more if GG).
  3. Buy HRs.
  4. Repeat.
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People that claim things like this are exaggerating. I played since D2 launched, and then LOD. Most of my time was PvP, so I wasn’t always hunting for items. When D2R hit, I needed to actually gear up, so PvM has become way more of my thing than it ever has. I’ve found tons of high runes in just D2R, except Zod.

I understand if life has other demands for you, they do for me too. However, you have to shape your activities around what you want out of the game. Do you want items? Build a fast and efficient MF character. Do you want to find high runes? Specifically focus on that then, normally items also come. Or PVP? Well, do that! The point is, you aren’t going to find high runes if you aren’t looking for them and acting accordingly.

I disagree with you 100%, as I don’t want the joy of finding a high rune to be the same thing as finding a circlet. I don’t want this game to turn into a modern ARPG like D3 or D4… I absolutely can’t stand the dopamine overload of those games.

Edit: I’d also like to add that I’ve made one character for this ladder season, and found a magic orb I sold for 2x Jah and a Ber. Then sold a light GC with 10 life I found in cows for an Ohm rune. I can make enigma, and almost a CTA, and still have a Jah left over. You just have to make the most of your time if you want wealth. It’s all about what is fun for you.

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Rofl, I played single-player once and got Enigma within a few weeks. Ofc it took some grinding; i found several ber and sur runes and cubed up to jah. Don’t even get me started on multiplayer, however: I can’t even count all the chams/jahs/bers/surs/los/ohms/vexes i’ve found ever since d2r launch (even found a zod once). I can tell that you are fooling us, for you never grinded in hell long enough to find something worthwhile in all those years. Don’t even appeal to Blizzard for such an egoistic request, because you clearly don’t know what you are talking about. Just listen to all the folks who tell you otherwise. -cheers

Edit: Also, every season again I get my Enigma within 1-3 weeks depending on how much i play. It’s really not that hard, isn’t it? :smiley:

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i dont think the drop rate needs to be increased, but that’s bull.
a jah every 5 hours? that luck is beyond absurd

Season, not session. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I found pul mal gul this ladder but not higher but i spend only one to 2 hours per day , ive seen that when i put more hours i find more runes and items. Also found 3 shakos which are useless because the prices dropped so fast. Still couldnt make enigma this ladder maybe its about luck too

Price of shako drops at the same rate the price of an enigma drops. Maybe you haven’t found enough yet, but also 3 shakos can get you one of the high runes you need already. And I doubt those are you only finds so far. So you’re just 3.5 shakos away from making an enigma.