Should game creators prioritize SSF game mode over spending resources on creating HC modes for modern games? I have played many years of HC and realized it was a waste of time. In my opinion, the drawbacks outweighed the benefits. I moved on to try SSF and enjoyed my experience with it. I see a lot of demand for this game mode and was wondering what the community thinks about this. From what I am seeing, the HC community is slowly shrinking and demand for official SSF game modes are increasing.
HC is just a couple of booleans in the code. It doesn’t require much.
Granted I haven’t played for many years but I was a die hard HC player. I have no intention of playing SC when the game comes out. The stakes of HC just make it so much better IMO.
The game modes are already made. The bulk of the work they are doing is cosmetic. I don’t see why it would cause any delay to keep HC in there. I’m sorry I also don’t think someone asking to remove a mode they don’t even play anymore should be considered a valid request.
I play very very little HC, but as previous poster said it takes very little code work to add so might as well keep it.
More game modes would only improve the replay value. A SSF mode that disallowed trading (which will be consumed by 3rd party sites anyway) is going to be widely sought by players. World bosses would be an issue to consider as you would need other players most likely. Depending on how scaling works in the game.
Whats SSF stand for. Never heard of this.
Solo self found I think
I almost exclusively play Hardcore, main reason is the economy always ended up cleaner, high level bots going for ladder die out, players die out. I have no issue with SSF setting you can put on that marks you as that, and doesn’t allow trading or grouping, that’s really only affecting you.
Don’t even need your own server, any mode your on SC/HC you can turn on SSF at character creation and it will remove the trading/grouping feature, can only pick up never dropped items, or however you want to do it, but you don’t need different servers, just a setting that removes options that could allow for you to get gear from others.
Then you can have a situation where you look at the HC ladder and see the 3rd guy is SSF and your like holy moly this guy D2’s…or he’s cheating 
Who is asking to remove it?
Who is asking to remove it?
There’s no reason to have a SSF Mode - or rather, it sounds like a large undetaking for what, a few thousand people at most - being very generous here? They’re the same people who got exactly what they thought they wanted when diablo 3 released. A perfect example of a very vocal minority.
You can already do this - you basically already do - you always play with a private password or in singleplayer - its why nobody knows about you as you hardly ever enter public games.
Thank you for your feedback. I was simply curious as to what people thought about it. Is it hyped? Is it something devs should start prioritizing? I do see many people asking for such a game mode and not much on HC other than unfair deaths and lag etc.
Its not really a meaningful change since its an entirely self-imposed form of gameplay that has little to do with how diablo functions as a wider ecosystem. It in fact rejects it for the most part and most of the people who play this have very little knowledge of the game outside of this self-imposed niche.
Want a meaningful change in terms of a game mode as it relates to hardcore?
Make it so you can agree(Mutual consent required) to a duel in hardcore that won’t be to the death but to 1 life. That way hardcore players can actually duel without risking everything but still maintain unilateral hostility for PK purposes.
Given that I will say it hurts nothing if blizzard allows a turn on that marks you as SSF, cant trade if trading is in available in lobby, and can’t join a game with other players. No concern with shared stash now, and they can be marked on the regular ladders as SSF next to their name, and then with a separate SSF board to show all those involved. Changes nothing with how they had self imposed restrictions and now it’s not an honour system.
This is if it doesn’t delay anything or they can add it later 
no, you’re not special because you don’t trade and just accept what RNG hands you. welcome to singleplayer.
Everyone’s special I am against a separate league/whatever … or in place of HC, there is no reason you can’t have each ladder have SSF as a toggle, it changes no gameplay whatsoever as they were already in the economy but not adding/removing to the economy. This would just be a flare next to them, or a different colour like hardcore does.
Buuut again not if it delays anything, they can add that later if it is wanted.
They’re not in the economy. They do not trade. No, we don’t need to give a badge to the people who want recognition as special snowflakes who have deluded themselves into thinking that their way is the only ‘legitimate’ way to play the game and that it is somehow actually difficult. They’re not better than anyone for playing the game the way they do.
again, welcome to singleplayer - which is in effect what these people are playing.
You can literally do this in private games. No need to acknowledge it.
Heh I agree Jerhyu but this literally hurts nothing, is kinda cool to see who else is doing it, and makes another engaging way to play D2. Being against it because a person wants to feel special is just a bit too harsh I think. I can understand why it would be a cool thing to see. I never do SSF, but I can empathize with why they want it, and how it hurts nothing to do.
its not.
There is no need for a participation trophy for it.
Do i need a tag for LLD PK since i want to play that way?
no, i don’t emphasize with it at all. These people have deluded themselves into thinking they’re superior because they play the game in the incredibly niche way that they do for the most part and treat every other form of playing this game as impure and therefore illegitimate. The last thing these people need is recognition as a special snowflake.
Why are you so against it passionately, on this one issue your being pretty extreme. This literally changes nothing besides add a image or text next to their name. If that set of pixels makes you feel diminished… I dunno man, other issues I can agree but this is pretty extreme reaction to pixels.
I’ve added more. There are very good reasons to not do this. I can’t wait for my LLD Badges or whatever that surely will come about due to my unique playstyle - which by the way is way more popular than self found.
Most of these people have a big tendency to look down on other people because they don’t play the game in the incredibly niche way that they do(even though its easy, inefficient, and incredibly shallow way to play this game - most of them are otherwise terrible at it outside of the niche they play in - or to put it differently noobs who limit themselves to playing the way they do because they’re not good at anything else)
I can feel that but then again who the hell cares what people think, this just makes the niche market easier to see how they are doing… they were already there… like I said I feel ya but SSF is a pretty staple mode for D2, I have no issue with blizzard making it easier for them to compare themselves… but that’s how I see it.
I promise they will not be top dogs unless they are cheating so meh.