Hardcore is dead can we get players 8 to sustain our xp gains?

Local single player is retarted. I cant play with other people there or trade or show off my cool loot and builds or pvp or help new players or do dclones etc.

Lmao, such gold love it. Do you live in the 90s? 99% of us are posting on a phone which gives you free autocorrect.

The irony is:

Youre too stupid to realize retard is a commonly blocked word on internet forums and actually thought someone was spelling it that way legitimately instead of to avoid censorship

And then you proceeded to make a post laughing about it. The idea it was to avoid filters went right over your head, as I imagine many concepts in life do.

/players X on closed Battle.net is retarted, and while it may bring a short spark of activity, it would be the final nail in the coffin for this game. You and the other pro /players X noobs don’t understand that. All you can think of is getting that sweet XP and item drop boost just like the multiaccounters and botters get.

But it has never been blocked here, so the irony stands!

I visit this forum once a month, i dont spend my life here like you do

We know, and only to repeat spam your request for /players X… Even though Blizzard has already said no to it…

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I have thousands of more posts on automobile forums, this is nothing. This is 2024, I have a smartphone where it is very easy just to have a tab open for all your favorite forums. I work from home, forums comprise a good chunk of my daily routine!

Valid. Though that is mainly the ignorant speaking on things they don’t know about. It isn’t like most botters couldn’t manufacture a script to allow their multiple bots to work together to mimic P8 anyway. And while it is efficient farming, I think people overstate just how efficient it is. Honestly considering the fact that blizz probably won’t ever implement the idea I feel like making a hork barb and running P1 TZ is probably the way to go if you want efficiency to a certain extent. Obviously you’re still missing out on select efficiency in some departments, but at least then you’re taking the matter into your own hands.

They’ve been doing that for quite a while now in the original game, and I don’t doubt they’re doing the same thing in D2:R.

While one or two bots run Chaos/Baal, the others are telezipping around farming superchests.

While the script existed and I have no doubt that it does in D2R. It was not common practice for a whole host of reasons mainly being it is better to eat a ban wave losing a mid geared character rather than lose a much higher end geared character for slightly more efficiency.

While there could be a whole host of setups as well I’d say if you were to go that route you certainly wouldn’t skip cows, and if you’re loading 8 you might as well key farm as well as essence farm, perhaps even run something along the lines of pit or ancient tunnels as well or as you put it do the superchest routes.

Regardless from what I’ve seen and I’m not in contact with nearly as many people who bot as I used to be in LOD, I have yet to see anyone running P8. TZ is the big thing which makes sense.

OK, so with TZ’s, it’d be a minor change…

One or two bots run the current TZ (if it’s a decent one) or otherwise run Chaos/Baal, while the other bots run superchests.

Holy sht xD
This over repeating thread from the most trollish and sick person in this forum is like 2 days old. Over 90 replies while you mostly cuss each other and giving this guy lot’s of attention. While half of the posts are from clay.

Just stop giving him attention, that’s just what he needs, so many against it with good arguments and just 1% of legit arguments from those who want /pX, Always the same thread since very long already, desperatly.

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Sorry I meant that it seems to be that most are focused on running P1 TZ chasers. And while I don’t doubt that there is some efficiency they could potentially gain by having the game at P5/P8 I don’t think they run it from what I’ve seen. But I don’t keep up with what they’re doing anymore and maybe they full send it with their characters, but I doubt it. Every griffon and ber rune used to improve your bot to run P8 content is another one not sold to someone.

If /players X were to come to the game, those single bot games could be dialed in exactly where they need to gain maximum efficiency…

Versus 1 player, /players 3 nearly doubles the drops from trash mobs. When you’re mowing down screens of them at a time without any slowdown from P1 to P3, that’s a significant gain.

I can’t count the number of times I’ve dropped great items from trash monsters. And almost missed a few of them because of the mind set that good items don’t usually drop from trash monsters! I’m sure I’ve missed plenty more because of that mind set!

Agreed. But they could do that right now regardless right? At least most can, and yet they’re not. Largely due to the investment of upgrading gear to be marginally more efficient, but utilizing gear that is easily sold.

Valid, and they certainly could be doing that right now, but it seems like they’re not. Meanwhile the pX slider would only bring that potential to the smallest amount of botters or botting hobbyists as most already could mimic P3 or P5 if they desired already.

Valid. I just don’t think the concern of the pX slider has anything to do with botting, nor should a good feature not be of it’s potential to be used by botters. It would be like requesting removing sockets from the game because botters socketed items.

And while I see some validity to the pX command because of the spam and poor game list, and it being the easiest way to allow people access to a feature they cannot use because the company refuses to do anything against it, it OBVIOUSLY would be preferential if they just made the chat channels better, banned the spammers, fixed the game list, so that people could easily find P8 content how they used to. For me it is just a band-aid that would be easy to implement that would allow people to play how they did in the past, because I doubt they’ll ever man up and fix the chat/game list.

Pandemonium events class torches… Power creep.

Trying to control SOJ duping with DClone event with the reward of Annihilus… Power creep.
Dclones crazy common spawn rate in D2:R, original power creep amplified.

Significantly increasing the rune drop rates to make the unobtanium overpowered runewords available to the ā€œcommonersā€ā€¦ Power creep.

Adding /players X to closed Battle.net would be yet another step up the power creep stair.

Very valid points. I would add TZ existence to that same power creep as drops are better as well. I do get your point. But I don’t want to blame people for wanting to play efficiently or wanting to max out their build with the best. What if they made the game harder like harder than it has ever been even against S tier full builds, but allowed for farming in the most optimal way with ease (ease as in getting to that status now how easy the fight it). I don’t think most people would care if it were harder, they just don’t want to lose out on being their best.

And while I do think this hurts the social part of the game, largely the social part of the game is destroyed anyway. The vast majority play P1 games or rarely link up in public games. And I’m fairly certain people aren’t trying to make the game easy, though perhaps some are, I think most just want to min/max their time/build which is quite common in gamers. But I don’t think anyone would shun making the game harder, hell that might actually mess with botters.

Maybe that is just me, but I think a lot of the QOL you classify as power creep most just want a more streamlined experience, and they wouldn’t mind an aggressive power buff of the monsters to compensate for that.

You are right though to some degree, some people want everything to be super free an easy despite the game being very easy anyway. Those that claim they cannot get all they want especially online where you can trade I think are probably lacking in some department. You can pretty much obtain a BiS while not perfect stat’d build within a week or two quite easily and with even moderate play it would take a month and you’d be level 99 while doing that if you so desired. In a typical ladder you could do that 3 times for 3 characters. Those saying they cannot find runes/items or whatever simply have something else preventing them than simply drop rates of anything.

I’ll finish up with a question even though again the preferential scenario is that the lobby/chat/game list is cleaned up. If people were willing to nerf characters and buff monsters to a level unmatched in D2, in order to receive the QOL updates you consider to be power creeps would that be acceptable?

Why not add the discarded feature from D3, ā€œMonster Powerā€? It’d be a separate modifier for monsters… Boosts monster health, defense, resists, damage and experience reward, with no increase in drops… Plus it’d allow for the number of players mechanic in the game to still work as it does now on monsters, potentially adding even more difficulty. Must complete game to unlock for that difficulty. Can be lowered or disabled in game, but not raised or (re)enabled.

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but…

Theres no power creep stairs left to climb. Everyone who has been playing this game for 2+ years have all the best possible gear already… all thats left to improve is the rolls on them. Everyone who wants an enigma has one. Everyone who wants a good torch has one. Everyone who wants a griffons has one. Everyone who wants a good anni has one. Everyone who wants a fort, last wish, botd, phoenix, has one. For most players, theyve already gotten all the gear they want, its just about chasing higher rolls at this point.

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