People who think unique items are bad either have never used them, are jsp users who only know what they’ve been told to buy off the site through word of mouth or guides or the are pvp players. The truth is unique gear and sets work effectively in the PvM end game until better items are found or made. The intention behind finding items and building characters in D2 is about evolution, regardless if it’s ssf or multiplayer trading and team work.
The only real issue with Diablo 2, regardless of what iteration of the game is played, is the overly easy access to BiS gear via jsp, websites that sell items and hero editor. If they removed trading from the game 80% of the player base on ladder wouldn’t know how to build a character to get to hell Baal.
It’d be funny if Blizzard forced a change that only allowed ladder characters to be hardcore and only grant access to shared stash and to trade that have ssf the game to clvl 90. Then all the experts who think uniques and sets are bad will be educated.
The players who would lash out at this hypothetical change are the ones who likely can’t play without easy access to gear or are just PvP players who need to buy their gear - to protect PvP, when transferring to nonladder a character can be permanently made softcore by checking off a box when accessing the character. Llds on ladder without access to trading and hardcore only would be a riot that everyone would play.
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What hard truth lol? I have never seen anyone saying that. Of course unique items are good, everyone know it for over 20 years? You discovered it now? Why do you talk like its some kind of relevation?
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The only thing in this game that are bad complete sets,Im not really sure where you get your logic,not everyone think “most” uniques are bad,some are pretty crap tho.It just depends on what its being compared too.Most GG rares will outclass almost all unique, of course theres like a DW no rare can outclass and a few others.You might be getting that kind of comparison and misread it
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Easily over 70% of uniquenitems are bad
Deal with it
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not exactly. There is only very few you would not use on playthrough. It just depends on whom you find it.
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Let me see you farm efficiently in endgame, whit only uniques in every slot. Yes all items are, helpfull in different phases of leveling up. The problem with uniques is that they are outshined by RWs in endgame. Not to mention Stealth, a low level RW, that you can speedrun through the whole game, every difficulty. Same with Spirit, that a Paladin can dual wield the earlyest in a playthrough. So tell me, how many uniqes can beat those? And because of rng and drop rates, some uniques are useless by the time you find them. Leveling up an alt character is the only usefull thing i found with random uniques. But still some of them have unrealistic requirements, based in what level you suposed to use them.
So yeah 99% of uniques are useless still.
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Play through is <1% of the time people spend playing the game
If an item doesn’t quality for the other 99% it’s mostly bad
Ok lets see for example unique normal helms:
Biggin’s Bonnet - useful for low level pvp
Tarnhelm - usefull for MF , low budget MF item
Coif of Glory - Useless? No, its good on playthrough as lightning res is valuable on normal
Duskdeep - very good melee helm early on
Howltusk - yes this one i would say is almost useless
The Face of Horror - good one, str, all res
Undead Crown - good for necro early on or for merc
Wormskull - +necro skills for lvl 21 is nice, life leech for merc
Peasant Crown - very good helm
Rockstopper - very good helm
Stealskull - very good helm
Darksight Helm - not that great but has rare cannot be frozen so useful for merc
Valkyrie Wing - not amazing but usefull for amazon
Blackhorn’s Face - great helm, amazing against souls
Crown of Thieves - very good helm
Vampire Gaze - very good helm
Harlequin Crest - no comment
Steel Shade - its on edge of being useless but still is not, i ahve seen few people using it on merc in travincal
Veil of Steel - yeah this one is useless
Nightwing’s Veil - good one
Andariel’s Visage - good one
Crown of Ages - good one
Giant Skull - not used that often but usefull for certain builds
So as one item type example, there is 24 helms with 3 useless helm counting steel shade as one too.
Thats 12,5% if i am not mistaken , not 99%
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So what? if you find it on playthrough its still usefull so you cant possible claim item is useless. Its situational.
If I give you Machete for gun fight, it will be useless. Does it mean Machete is useless? Hell no.
People here dont know definition of useless or bad, you cant use it as general statement on items just because you will not use it on your lvl 95 char with top items.
Really useless items are the ones being badly designed so they dont have use. like Veil of steel for example.
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Yeah way to take my statememt out of context.
Well your statement is simply not true. Do you have some data to back it up? Lets talk the items, I give you example with helms, take any item cotegory and i am interested if you find 99% of useless uniques. Useless as you would not use it at any situation for some benefit.
Have you read the rest of my thoughts, regarding why i think they are mostly useless?
Yes I did read it and I dont agree with it, sorry Just because you are used to farm items with certain equip in certain game mode doesnt mean your statement is true for other situations. Or for different people.
Agree or disagree, Pepsi or coke who cares in the end. Make your voice heard and leave it at that.
There is nothing wrong about arguing about different opinions. I respect his opinion, but i challenge it.
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You don’t have to agree, you have to accept it, since it has some degree of truth. As I will accept your view, since there’s truth in that too. I don’t wnat to change your thoughts, i understand your way of thinkig, in exchange i expect nothing less from you.
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anyone who thinks the majority of uniques are currently well designed have no idea what theyre talking about
why should these unique items exist, with odds in the thousands to hundreds of thousands, when there are runeword alternatives that are significantly easier to find and the base is customizable to your needs. how many of you have gotten enigma before you’ve gotten tyraels might?
of course, there are some good uniques. a decent portion of the elite uniques are fairly useful (until you get the runes for a high rune runeword). but runewords should not be the majority endgame. in nearly every case, a runeword is easier to obtain than the equal counterpart to it (if there is an equal counterpart). there are 2 exceptions, infinity and last wish.
some of you will probably respond with “no, you’re wrong, runewords are so hard to obtain, my enigma takes so long to get”. so i’ll address it now. the “equal” counterpart to enigma is tyrael’s might or templar’s might. endgame, hard to find items. unfortunately, both of those uniques, despite being amongst the rarest in the game, have absolutely 0 use. spirit blows every unique shield (except stormshield) out of hte water. spirit blows every staff and orb (with exception to some of the elite ones) out of the water. stealth blows the majority of unique armors out of the water. you wanna know the spots that are most occupied by uniques? the slots that don’t have runewords available for them. the helm slot is actually decently balanced for runewords vs uniques. most of the helm uniques are actually pretty useful. and that would be because most of the unique helms beat out their respective runeword helms (and thats how it should be). go visit any guide on the internet, and for the early/mid portion at least 3 of the 4 slots will have a runeword as a recommended slot, because they are so good for how easy they are to obtain
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you forgot griffon which is the best unique head piece next to CoA and nightwing.
And we didn’t even start on the other endgame uniques like Dweb, Windforce and Stormshield and Vipern or soj/bk/ravenfrost/highlords or arach and gorerider, wartraveler, even goblin toes and hotspurs.
A good part of the uniques are fine and even used in endgame builds. But there are still a lot that are pretty much garbage.
The biggest problem is that the endgame unique items would need a little adjustment to match the runewords.
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With your very stretchy definition of good you could say that throwing potions are good because you sell them for the first 0.0001% of the game to make money
Even could apply to your first weapon lol
Hey those cracked ethereal gloves are BIS!
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Did you really need to say it that way to make a point? Don’t be rude, maybe go outside for a walk and take a break