Why does fury druid only benefit from weapon IAS speed? It was the case in old D2 (I believe) and now AGAIN post “bug” fix. Let me be clear - fixing the IAS “bug” is fine. But there are normal frame rates that it would be nice to be achieved through different gear combinations (slower weapon but having other items with IAS, like highlords, LoH, etc). I didn’t utilize the IAS “bug” to hit unachievable breakpoints from the old D2, but, it did allow the fury druid to benefit from IAS on other gear pieces beyond just the weapon. It was glorious and opened things up for a long time favorite character type of mine. PLEASE, BLIZZARD, MAKE THIS ONE SIMPLE CHANGE!
Ohh really? So no IAS benefit from gloves or belts? Dont think I knew that but also don’t play a druid.
Correct - weapon only. Sucks royally.
You can still swing really fast though as a wolf. I’ve got a ribcracker and he swings so fast you cant really see the hits its like zeal.
Maybe they made it this way so that bears don’t end up swinging too fast, when i looked at the skills (made my first furry druid on d2r 
) it seems that you pick between big and tanky (bear) or fast and less tanky (wolf)
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Same mechanic as for ww barbs.
It does suck that they’re is is only from weapon but I think it’s a balance thing cause I gm melee a lot and the Druid was literally massacring every1 with 4 frame botd or 3 frame gris caddy to the point where it was barely fair
I don’t think a fairness argument is valid in a game where you’ve got frozen orbs sorcs clearing entire rooms without a scratch.
And that’s just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
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You realize not benefitting from IAS on gear is a benefit/blessing in disguise? You already reach very fast fury speeds with proper weapon and werewolf investment, guess what that means? The rest of your gear you don’t have to worry about getting or using any IAS. That means you can focus on all the other valuable attributes. Which is basically a good thing and why fury druids can become so tanky/invincible, because they don’t have to waste their item budget on IAS. Get all that %ED, get all that CB/DS/OW, get all that resist, get all that leech, get everything you want and need, and be thankful you don’t have to worry about IAS any more than your weapon and werewolf skill.
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Totally agree here, except for one small problem.
Werewolf is supposed to be about DPS, where Werebear is supposed to be about tanking.
All I can see is doing is making all druids roll as elemental instead, considering casters don’t have to worry about their chance to hit etc.
I’d have to agree IAS should be affected by all gear. It was designed to affect melee attack speed to begin with.
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I had heard they get SOME ias from non weapons but that it was mitigated substantially.
The reason it’s that way is because of the native IAS bonus you get from werewolf which then gets synergies from lycanthropy. Which is further increased by skillers. Most fury druids make it their mission in life to stack tf out of skillers. Even a couple of +1’s to werewolf have a huge boost in speed making it very easy to hit your break points. The IAS on weapon only, which you can add IAS too via a socket, and using a two handed 0 to -10 polearm or similar weapon is why it’s the way it is. You also have to consider things outside IAS. Like stacking Deadly Strike/Crit hit. Or crushing blow. Each hit would have a chance to proc. Allowing equipment to potentially further increase the number of hits per second, would start to get rather OP.
Have you ever used a Ribcracker with a shael rune in it? It’s pretty fast man.
They get ias from gear as other classes do, however only up to a certain point and when the Wias is low enough
Wias also affects APS allot more then Ias.
Example Werewolf 20 / using Feral Rage.
Cryptic Axe Wias 0 / Ias 0 / APS 1.39
Cryptic Axe Wias 0 / Ias 130 / APS 2.27
Cryptic Axe Wias 60/ Ias 0 / APS 3.13
Cryptic Axe Wias 60 / Ias 130 / APS 3.57
Cryptic Axe Wias 81 / Ias 130 / APS 5
Cryptic Axe Wias 100 / Ias 0 / APS 5
At 100 Wias on a CA, Ias no longer matters, it can affect the Cryptic Axe up to it having 81 Wias.
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Ok so…druids get werewolf. Assasins get burst of speed. Pally’s get fanat aura. Everyone else has their niche IAS skill and still benefit from IAS on gear. It is not the same, and does not compare. Druids are literally restricted to items like ribcracker with shael like you mentioned, or tomb reaver, to even be viable, and all other gear is the same gear with absolutely no room for creativity or variation for things like treachery, highlords, nosferatu’s, LoH, IAS jewel in Jalal’s… Nope, just the same old items and forced to use the only few viable weapons because of it.
I’m not sure what you mean compare. Are you talking about a character for PvE? PvP? HC? Each of those setups will be slightly different. And some gear will be different as well. HC peeps constantly poke fun at the softies for making glass cannon builds since most of us use set ups in non HC that would get you killed in Hell before you got anywhere near the 90’s. Those weapons are BiS for a fury druid, there are always a few items that are BiS gear in any game, and usually, since its BiS, its only a few choices. And saying druid is “restricted” to those weapons is like saying any character is “restricted” to their BiS weapon. It is in part true. But that’s just the reality of any game. And those aren’t the only viable choices for weapons you can use. Though they are the meta. You want something different? Trying using a GPA/cryptic axe with Doom. If you’re rich you could try making an eth archon staff Breath of the dying. Both of these are viable end game weapons. I think you’ve been watching too many youtube videos of people telling you what to wear instead of talking with other players and experimenting. Which is part of the game. Not just gearing up in all BiS and heading out to blow stuff up like D3. Have you ever tried making a rabies build to clear cows? It’s pretty fun. Pretty hilarious.
In the end, it was a bug. It had to be dealt with. It was ridiculously OP.
I currently run a BOTD giant thresher that I made. Fury druid was my champion of choice 20 years ago in old D2 and it is now in D2R in the little time that I have. I love being analytical and going off-meta with combinations that work. I’ve probably tried virtually everything under the sun in old D2. I have a different forum specific to this topic, so you havent seen a lot of my other comments - YES it was a bug, and YES the ias cap needed to be fixed, and I’m all for that! What I’m talking about with the fury druid is not achieving impossible ias breakpoints, but rather achieving the same ias breakpoints through other means and being able to go outside of the box with weapon choice. I just plain and simple enjoy attacking faster, to me it feels more rewarding, even if I happen to be doing less damage or have a slightly slower over all kill speed.
Well I give you props for the off meta work. We’ll see what the future brings.
-Cheers
active skill “werewolf” gives you bonus attack speed