Funny seeing ppl happy for re-balance yet being anti personal loot

I’m sure it’s so very important. That’s why it’s a non optional setting that is easily avoided. Probably has it’s own ladder, matchmaking, rankings etc.

Wait, D2 has no actual system for competitive PVP and was basically an afterthought. Let me call someone a scrub because that makes me sound macho.

You wound me so.

The only place trading actually affects anything is on Ladder. When it comes to Ladder, whether you’re for or against personal loot (AKA Bound items), here are the facts:

So everyone must agree on everything that’s proposed or they’re all anti-change?

You must be joking.

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u gaslight the real players and try to invalidate pvp

classic d3 scrub move

Personal loot = oversaturated economy + less trading in general

There’s a reason why things are the way they are. There’s a reason this game is still so brilliant to people today. the burn of not being the first to pick up that item you desperately need, and willing to trade it all to get it, or that absolute high you get from actually getting the item that you need which just dropped before everyone else did, is exactly what makes this game so enjoyable. The highs and lows. The contrasts.

Personal loot is giving everyone a participation trophy (even if they didn’t participate i.e afk exploit), and it could totally rewrite what kind of items drop for who, and how often. I enjoy how random this game can be. I enjoy the burns and struggles. People detest it [personal loot] for a good reason, trust me.
Personal loot/no trading/class-specific loot didn’t belong in Diablo 3 and it damn well doesn’t belong in any form of Diablo 2.

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Can you explain this? How does the same amount of loot with Ploot suddenly crash the beloved economy?

oversaturated economy- too many available items, values drop, harder to find items are more available
I can’t think of an easier way to explain that

The amount of items that drop doesn’t change with Ploot. You would’ve known if you would have followed any Ploot discussion in the past months.

Your turn to elaborate. I don’t pay attention things I don’t care about

I’m really bad at this reply system haha sorry

The current state is, when people talk about Ploot, they simply want a different loot allocation system.

The amount of loot is the same, RNG chooses who sees a specific item for x amount of seconds, in that time window the chosen person can pick it up before the items turns FFA.

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personal loot is stupid, piss off crybaby

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The amount of dumb people thinking Personal loot means more items is just ridiculous

Guys… ploot = short allocation not instances loot

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First things first: who?

Okay, thats a concept i’d be ehhhh kinda okay with I guesss…?
When I, and many other hear Ploot, we think of 400 unique and set items dropping for everyone all the time that BOP and can’t be traded, like in D3, and that concerns us. That concept is better, but still not ideal imo

It’s purely based on how we’ve seen it implemented in other systems like D3, it’s not that ridiculous that people go to that conclusion.

It’s fine :slight_smile: We all don’t want that. People just ask for an optional system that is simply more fair, that’s all.

The D3 system is trash, we all agree on that.

anyone who actually enjoyed D2 pretty much hated how D3 did everything (cept free swapping talents as that was actually fine as you coudl try out all sorts of builds w/o hassle) and their version of Ploot only worked due to no trading rules.

a proper P loot is each drop is for 1 person (in range so its all urs if ur alone in area) so you arent fighting over who can pick stuff up faster which with controller looting beign near instant is badly needed if you want the game to be pugging rooms.

D3 was a mistake to the Diablo IP.

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Personal loot interferes with the advantage the d2jsp goons have. Thats what you are going up against.

The amount of loot might be the same, but the amount of pay to win items ceases to exist which is the entire point to having personal loot to begin with.

If anyone bothers to actually read anything about this instead of just throwing around insults and saying it’s a bad idea, you can clearly see that Whenever personal loot topics are created, the only thing people reply with are things that have no relevance to anything.

it’s obvious that people who are against personal loot have a problem with it because it shuts down places like d2jsp which is how they get a lot, if not all of their items.

There isn’t ever a discussion on why personal loot needs to be implemented because places like D2jsp have destroyed the d2r economy as wolfgang pointed out in his reply above.