Finally realized the hate for personal loot

It was the shortest and most concise video I could find. If you google picket software, you will see that it still exists and it’s far superior to what is shown in that video. I do not encourage anyone to use it as it will compromise your account.

you try to prove somthing. and then post a 2008 yt video, when ther is many other proof out ther? but you cant post any prove?

Sorry not going to fall for it. Posting such content could get my account in trouble. You can do your own research.

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fall for what?

a yt video from 2008 cant. but a 2021 video from yt can get you in trouble?

Aren’t those leechers the reason you get more loot? Doesn’t that make them deserving of free XP?

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You are challenging me to post more proof of a cheating software on an official Blizzard forum which is against TOS.

You also acknowledged that there are:

So I am glad that we both agree on that. I encourge everyone to do their own research.

Not to mention those leechers can provide BO, enchant and other passive buffs to the group.

we dont agree. just another made up lie from you. you said…

i answerd you

so i dont agree on anything. other then you have no proof. you just try to make you side look good. and like so many others from you side. you Quote, so it looks like we agree. bad move. you ditten even post my Qoute with the Quistion mark. but good try.

A bunch of these dummies don’t seem to understand how magic find works.

Having a full game doesn’t automatically mean you get more drops.

First off you need more people (which everyone seems to understand).

Secondly you need people to be in your party, so those dummies that go taking off to do their own MF runs or teleport across to the other side of the cow level while refusing to join the group are just hurting themselves (and technically everyone since they are only allowing drops for seven instead of eight).

Thirdly, it’s based off the distance from the thing that pops loot. If you are close enough to get exp, that is close enough for increased loot drops (quantity, not quality).

The danger with the system is “leechers” are forced to stay nearby to get exp, which causes more loot to drop, which increases chances they steal whatever drops.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think this is correct. You get more drops at players 3,5 and 7. This is regardless of if you are in a group or not. The only thing that you don’t get if you are not in a group, is shared XP. If you are not grouped in a party and you are delivering the killing blow to a monster you get all the XP to yourself.

This is how I power level myself from 15-24 in act 2 Tomb runs. Enchanted Toon with a raven claw one shotting everything :grin:

The reason why players teleport across a cow level “ungrouped” is not for XP, it’s because it’s harder for anyone to located them on the minimap, thereby increasing their chances of farming cows without any competition.

Well, I did quote you so…

so when you qoute wrong. people agree?

her is a Quote you said.

glad we agree

I don’t know how you did that, but it shows your integrity when you create false quotes. If anyone clicks on the down arrow to show the quoted line, they can see that I said no such thing. You just condemned yourself and lost all respect from me and possibly other readers by trying to put words in my mouth.

I feel very sad for on this day. :pensive:

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i just did what you did.

you say ther was proof out ther.

is what i say look at the ?

you did.

se what you did ther? made me look like we agrred. when we did not.

If you are arguing why I did not include the “?” in the quote, it’s because it is clear that English is not your first language. I am not making fun of that; my interpretation of your statement was that you made a statement about the existence of other proof out there. I quoted the relevant words to support my arguments from your statement. The question mark, in my interpretation, was for why I chose that video. I was not trying to take your statement out of context, but what you did was put words in my mouth and for that you have lost all credibility.

I did not create words that I never typed and then try to make it look like I wrote them.

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Here’s the reason I personally hate personal loot, and it has literally nothing to do with multiboxing or botting: I get enjoyment in my friends enjoyment.

What I mean is if I know my friend is playing a Sorceress and is after a Shako and it’s not dropping for him, and I come across one as I am playing while he is offline, it means I get excited that I can give it to my friend, and he will be excited over getting the thing he’s been looking for. Or they are looking for a specific amount of sockets on a specific item for a runeword and I find it, I can give it to them and they can be happy.

I don’t like personal loot (using D3 as the obvious example) because if I am playing without my friends and I get something to drop that I don’t need, and I know my friend is after…I have to trash it because I literally can’t give it to them. Or if I AM playing with my friend, but playing a different class than they are playing and an item drops I know they are after, well the item that dropped for me isn’t what they are actually after because it has stats based on my class, and not theirs. So in the case of D3 and the option of reforging an item to dump one stat, now with my being a different class, there’s possibly 2 stats they need to dump but aren’t able to.

I get the most enjoyment out of Diablo 2 because I get to enjoy it with my friends regardless of whether they are actually online WITH me at the time I am playing.

Diablo 3 on the other hand, the only time I can experience enjoyment with my friends being on is if my friend is on at the time I am on, otherwise I can’t give them literally anything I find, AND I need to make a character of the same class as them so anything that drops for me that they are after, I can give to them, thus making my own personal experience worse since all the loot is being funneled to my friend of that class.

Now I do agree that “leechers” are pieces of crap that need to be forcibly sterilized and have their houses burned to the ground while they are tied to the tree in their front yard while being forced to watch what they caused to happen to themselves, BUT not all “leechers” are evil like that.

Take myself for example. I will leech the hell out of a game as far as gaining experience for levels goes, but I’ve also learned how to be a damn good Cow wrangler and I can corral MASSIVE groups for the Javazons to obliterate even while I am way undergeared. And I just do it so they can kill things faster and be helpful. And while that’s happening I don’t steal their loot.

What I may do is grab loot that drops before the other people do, identify it and then send them a message asking if they want it or not. And if they do, I will hand it to them in town (not drop so someone else can steal it). I will do that in Baal runs as well. I can tell who is the one or maybe two people who are doing the actual damage, and I will grab things to ID and then whisper them about whether they want it or not. Even if it’s high value things, they earned the item for letting me leech exp from them, so I am not gonna just take it from them because I am not infected with a case of the gimmegimmes like it seems a TON of people are these days.

Some of us as leechers understand our place, and some just feel entitled to other peoples’ hard work. So yes, that can be a weakness for public loot. But again, personal loot means I just don’t enjoy the game as much with my friends because I just hear complaints about how x, y, or z just won’t drop for them, and I can’t do anything about it.

Hell, in World of Warcraft it’s the same thing. You knew what others wanted, then the loot drops, the master looter links the items for rolling or for whatever loot system your raid would use, and you got to be excited for that person. Now the loot drops and you get a spam flood of “Are you gonna use that? Do you need that? Can I have that? Mine? Mine? Mine? Mine?”

Basically you are going based off a “NoDrop” variable when it comes to drops, and that is what depends on other people being in the game. And some things only matter up to 5 people, and some can even be 3 or 4. The more people in the game AND in the party AND nearby is what causes the NoDrop numbers to be lower. So yes, technically in a full game of 8, someone being ungrouped and doing their own thing outside of exp range may get the benefit of added people, but only up to 4 unpartied people, or something like that, which isn’t very good.

So technically it is “best” for chance at things to drop when you are in range of someone swiping your loot, which does make sense why people don’t want to be near others when they kill, BUT by not being by others, they are just hurting themselves while pretending they are really getting any real benefit at all.

So, are you saying that in an player is in a 7-player game and is farming in a different act un-grouped, that player will get less drops from a monster than if that same player joins an 8 players game and is grouped up in the same zone right next to the killing blow from an ally?

Exactly. Some bosses and super-uniques drop a set number of things however so the numbers won’t be changed, but for the majority of everything else, it definitely has an influence on drops.

I need further clarification on your answer. You start with “Exactly”, are you agreeing with the above statement?

Then you state a fact about specific bosses and elites dropping set drops (regardless of player count), which is again a fact.

If leeching need loot then why do so many leech for years in bot games when they actually were using pickit?

Oh ya cuz you are there to level up. Why should person in d2r go through trouble of running you through chaos or baal if they dont get your share of the loot?

Sounds like in addition to ploot they would need an additional system to coerce players to make a public game. Maybe we can add report feature to get selfish solo players banned if they dont work as slave to leechers?

Idk man this idea seems really bad and would have big negative impact on group play

You have ploot, it’s called running a game solo.

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