Feature request: Unrestricted Respec Option or Toggle

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But why? People are here defending the currently system and foaming at the mouth about not allowing anyone else to respec freely.

Why? How does it affect you?

No one seems to be able to answer that.

What’s your fun have to do with me respeccing my character freely? How does an option that players can choose to exercise alter your fun?

No it doesn’t make sense.

How does an option that can be toggled by choice affect you? If you don’t want to, then don’t exercise the option.

Is it that you have no self-restraint?

I’ll still love my character and play for hundreds of hours. I played D3 for hundreds upon hundreds of hours. I am STILL playing it.

Like a bunch of sycophants mindlessly repeating something with no understanding of it. Ironic considering we’re here to discuss a game involving cults and demon worship.

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It will simply affect everything what this game was made for.

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How? Detail the reasons why.

How? Especially if it’s an offline character that you will never interact with. How exactly?

How does little Timmy respeccing his Druid somewhere in the world affect the game for others?

There are already limited or restricted respecs. How does removing the restrictions change anything?

Do you actually have any valid reason beyond, ‘It’s just the way it is okay? Accept it!’?

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its called PREPARATION
get used to it

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unlimited respecs? hmmm. no sir. i don’t like it. that what tokens are for anyway and they’re honestly not that hard to get. i had an entire mule stash and inventory filled with these things to where i was giving them away for free. that would just make the game too easy. i get people gotta experiment and it’s almost necessary for sorc because a lot of your pts go into the useless skills just so you can kill and progress but the game is all about survival and inventory management. it’s a whole diff game from d3.

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I mean, most RPGs have a cost to respecing. In Skyrim its Dragon Souls, in Pillars of Eternity its gold that slightly goes up each time you do respec, in here its tokens. And in some, its starting over from scratch. I think simply increasing the drop rate and expanding farming for them to all difficulties is pretty damn fair. I don’t think simply having a button to let you respec at will is a good idea, maybe just for offline at the most, but not in general. Plus yes it does matter; whats the point of an RPG if I can respec on the fly at any time, no cost? What the hell is the point of builds or learning skills then? Why not just give you enough points to max out almost every single skill? RPG’s have always been about building a unique character, a sort of expanded illusion of choice (lets be honest, no build is 100% unique). D3 was criticized by fans for that for a reason, because it destroyed the idea of a build and you could just zip around and instantly change your build for any given situation. Thats not how RPGs are supposed to work, lol like, at all.

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So you have no actual reasoning or anything of value to contribute to the discussion?

Ok then, bye. Username checks out, by the way.

Really now? And what’s the tangible challenge with rerolling a different character and levelling again, especially with farmed gear from the shared stash?

What actually difficulty is there besides time spent? Why not just cut out the middleman?

Be honest, it’s literally just a time sink, and provides no actual challenge.

Again, how does an optional respec affect your game difficulty?

Why are you so intent on controlling how everyone else plays?

Don’t be disingenuous. RPGs don’t gain any extra value because you are locked into a build. RPGs don’t become unplayable due to an available option to players to respec if they want to.

There is still a point in learning builds and skills; being able to respec would only foster that learning as people would now have room for error.

Being able to respec limited points is nowhere near the same thing as giving a player enough points to max out every skill. That’s a false equivalence.

Costing an increasing amount of gold per respec is also fine, but ultimately pointless in a game in which gold ceases to have any actual value after a point.

If you don’t like the respec, then don’t use it. That’s the beauty of options and choices: You can choose to do whatever you wish.

Why are you so dead set on preventing everyone else?

Why do you care if a different player exercises the option to respec, especially if it affects you in no way whatsoever?

How does it change how the actual game is played besides removing an enforced time sink to respec? The game will mechanically function in the same manner, and people will still have to level, farm items, and build to clear the content.

So why?

No one seems to be able to provide clear answers to these questions, yet still shows up to parrot and regurgitate the same old garbage as gospel.

The crickets are still chirping while waiting for one compelling response.

One.

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I’m not controlling the way anyone plays… that doesn’t even make any sense. if you need to rely on infinite respecs then you have no idea what you’re doing or how to play the game even though there’s plenty of guides. there’s only so many ways to build your class and you really don’t even need 3 respecs. if you want to make an orb sorc then start with something easy like fire, go back at lvl 30 and use your norm respec and there you go. no need to reset anymore unless you pickup torch, anni and other items which allow you to save a few pts in str and add those to vit instead but it’s really not a game breaker. the og diablo 2 didn’t even have a respec system, it was added in way later. if time is so valuable to you then sorry but you’re playing the wrong game. this game is one of the grindiest games out there. maybe diablo 3 is more your speed where you can change your skills around as you please. everyone had to remake their chars at some point. it really doesn’t take that long even if you work 6 days a week.

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You are though. You are effectively saying that no one should be able to respec freely whenever they want to while they play. Yet you provide no actual reason as to why.

This is a 20 year old game. I played it and beat it every which way so long ago that the PC I did it on is most likely rotting inside a landfill. Don’t act like playing this game is rocket science.

Furthermore, what fun is there in following a written guide step by step. Let people run around discovering items and skill synergies for themselves instead of having to mindlessly reroll a character every time they have a bad idea or make a mistake.

It’s almost as if you have something against people having fun.

Ok then, let them add more. What is your objection exactly?

Its 2021 now. Let it go already.

It really isn’t. Most MMOs are far grindier than this game.

Yeah cool, I play that too, I still play it. To this day. Despite being able reskill freely. Unrestricted respeccing has absolutely no relation with the longevity or playablity of a game.

Yeah let’s never learn from the past or progress in any way. Let’s just keep pounding our heads against the wall until it gives.

Why do you care so much if other people respec?

Don’t say that you don’t, because you just vomited out a paragraph being against it.

I’m still waiting for a response to “why?” that isn’t “that’s just how they did it 20 years ago, so we should always do it this way.”

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lol dude I’m not reading a wall of text for something that doesn’t need a response. you claim I’m trying to change the way people play but it sounds like to me you’re trying to play hardcore or something and you suck at it so you want it to be easy with unlimited respecs. your suggestion is ridiculous and it’s not going to be changed dude, just give up and stop stupidly obsessing over this. the game is mostly mirroring the original and it’s EASY and i doubt any actual expansion content will be added. not to mention changing something like that would just screw the game up even more because bug fixes almost often lead to more bugs or bugs actually not fixed. you saying you’ve played for 20 years makes it even more suspicious why you would want such an easy mode option. please stop putting words in people’s mouths too. it’s really annoying and you trying to force this change is really annoying. I’m starting to think you’re a troll and you just want confrontation while you’re address every other word or sentence with an entire paragraph. you got issues man.

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No dude.

Stop deflecting or evading the question because you don’t actually have a good answer.

Provide one compelling reason why there should not be an optional function to players respeccing their characters, an option you never have to exercise if you personally don’t want to, that effectively doesn’t alter the game as a whole in any tangible manner, that doesn’t affect you personally, and that does nothing but bypass a pointless time sink.

One single compelling reason.

If you can’t, then stop wasting my time.

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ok i will: because that would change the original experience. this is not redesign the entire game, it’s make the graphics nicer and bring the community back together for nostalgia, not defeat the entire purpose of the game which is to survive on a hell infested with demons. adding infinite respec makes experimenting and builds totally pointless as someone else already said. if you lvl a sorc to 20 and realize she sucks then you either figure out something else or delete the character and start over, but you at least get 1 respec.per difficulty. ehat do you want next a bigger inventory? you have been given plenty of reasons why this is a stupid addition and no answer is good enough for you, so again just give it up and learn how to play the game. you got 20 years of experience so what’s the problem? don’t answer that. anything else from you a waste of time. if this and other replies from people doesn’t get thru then that’s your problem and you clearly don’t get the point of the game and want it to be too easy. go play d3 if you want that experience. there’s no respec system at all you can just do whatever you want and the game is no fun and there’s no way to build your character wrong.

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Yes, because an option that anyone can choose or choose not to exercise will dramatically change the entire experience for everyone.

Me respeccing my offline sorceress on my switch will alter your game experience.

Intellectual dishonesty at its finest.

You have no answer besides you just don’t want it, and no one else should have it either.

Thanks for nothing. Bye.

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bruh you really need to turn off your fanaticism aura and stop zealing

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After some thought, I think adding in an unlimited respec option would be pretty handy for newer players to make the game more accessible. I’ve played for a long time, but this is my fiance’s first run through, and it wasn’t too fun telling her that her ability choices were a big deal and that it’d lock her in (in a sense) to her decisions, without being able to super freely play around and enjoy the game and find a build that she would enjoy.

That said, I doubt blizz will make this change. Just because effectively there already is unlimited respecs through the tokens, and there is obviously a strong market for people who would be interested in farming them and selling them to folks with limited time, like OP. Just looking at it priority wise from a development roadmap standpoint, it’s not a lift for them that would really add any value since pseudo-functionality is already present that can help support the in-game economy.

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stop blaming others for your own damn incompetence.

if you are incapable of prepping, reading a guide, or at least thinking long term…hell, bro, don’t know what to say besides:

D2 IS NOT THE GAME FOR YOU

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Well, I don’t know what it would take for them to add it in, as I am not on the development. I don’t know how the game is coded, and how long or how much work it would take to recode or implement.

As long as someone from Blizzard doesn’t chime in, it’s all speculative.

However, there was allegedly a poll asking players if this functionality should be adding in earlier. I read people post about it in a few places.

I can’t deny that it will have an impact on the in-game economy. The market for Tokens of Absolution or their materials will absolutely be invalidated. I’m unsure what percentage of the player base relies on farming and selling/trading those, and can’t speculate on the scope of the impact to the overall economy. Certainly, PC players that added their existing saves from the original game would immediately be affected. It’s a valid concern.

Your fiancé’s experience is just one example, but I’m glad that you see and acknowledge why a lot of people would find this option to be desirable.

Thanks for actually providing a thoughtful response, as opposed to telling me to go play Diablo 3 or some other nonsense.

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I hate that there is even an option to respec you should have to live with your choices. That’s what made this game great.

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Sorry but so tired of the whole make the game accessible by dumbing it down and making the choices you make not mean anything. People used to learn how to play games now its gotta dumb it down cause person a dont know how to play…

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I actually like the core concept. But, as usual, people would abuse the heck out of it…and that’s the problem.

About to face Diablo? Respec to a build that will wreck him.
Done wrecking Diablo? Respec.
Respec after respec after respec as you face different challenges and areas…and end up essentially breezing through the game.

Again, I like the idea of a limitless respec option. But Blizzard would have a cow with how often it would be done.

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