Explaining the exp formla, Why specific runs are done,

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people know that you do trist runs then tombs till 20 then cows to 24, and then ancients, and then baal.

or if u are grushed
then just hell chaos follow the leader
but im wondering how many people, even long time players, actually understand why?
i mean do people know why baal is 25, and not 24 or 26
do they KNOW why trist?

if u dont, or even u think you do, give this a read, if u do feel inclined to rush the ladder this should help u level much faster

i mean cows is simply because of the monster level, but none of the other ones are… and im curious as to how many people know how to level properly…

it i just assumed that they just flat out dont know that monsters that say “minion” give 4x the exp… and baal is 5x minion waves. and because minion have a base level 3 higher than normal monsters

and that the exp formula changes at 25, which is why you get almost no exp in act 5 before 25

because i frequently see people skipping rankitsu and his minions at the stone portals, or skipping killing baal, because they dont realize his level is 99 and therefore wont give reduced exp becuase “his level is lower” like all the lvl 88 minions will do when trying to level above lvl 85

and lastly, if u have someone high level rushing you for exp through tombs or cows, or even norm or nm baals
ALWAYS make sure they are as close to your level as possible
exp in a party is divided based on your level BEFORE reductions apply,
your portion of exp = your level/ sum of every players lvl

having a high level takes away the exp u get as they get more of it
( this is done before any reductions apply)

take a good read of
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/basics/experience.shtml

i covered the basics that u can control, but there are some more in-depth party exp related stuff that may shed some light as to how to gain levels as fast as possible

PS: seroiusly blizzard i cant include links STILL? evern though i could before d2:r launched.
your forum migration is a joke… also… its your own site…

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Good stuff, I also enjoy Nightmare and Hell Cows for leveling 30-80 too, it may never be the fastest or anything, but there’s lots of clickables and little threat from generally slow/dumb cows, and the games are plenty. Even Nightmare cows you can get some GG stuff like Lightning/FHR grand charms (got two of those from Nightmare cows), or even some decent runes, and of course plenty of flawless gems, jewels, socketables, etc. While leveling the fastest most optimum way is great and everything, sometimes it pays to do what you enjoy, or do what’s available rather than force yourself to do something you don’t enjoy, or wait for runs that just aren’t happening.

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correction
minions give 5x the exp.
not 4x
http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/monsters/bonus.shtml

also this is why trist runs are extremely effective, because trist has a bunch of minion packs and rankanitsu right before it.

not to mention in hell lvl 85 areas, minions packs are lvl 88 therefore can drop things that can only drop at lvl 86 + like azurewrath, tyreals, ETC

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I don’t do trist runs. From about level 8 I run the tower 1-5 it’s more xp and you get runes at the end that you’ll need for basic runewords. Then I walk catacombs 2-4. Level 8 - 15 only takes a few runs and you don’t need 7 other players. From 15-20 I just let my merc kill things in the first few areas of act 2. From 20-24 tombs then ancients for 25. Cows is great IF you can get a sorc to chant you.

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Beat me to this… I run the same strategy, never have I ever done trist runs when the tower has more minion packs and you get to farm all of your basic runewords.
Run this to level 14 or 15, kill andy geting a few more levels in the journey, A2 beetle packs into Tomb runs or just general questing, you can get level 25 through the journey to Ancients and Baal.

100% Agree on not killing Ancients til 24 so that you get the full xp bonus, then baal runs from 25-40 ish or whatever you want before NM.

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well yes u make a good point about the cows, many people dont realize how party exp works, if a high lvl is killing stuff for you, then u get a LOT less exp…

u dont want to norm baal or cows with anyone over 45 else u get siginficantly reduced exp ( like 1/3- 1/5 what u would with a lower lvl running it.
for nm runs u really dont want someone over 65 doing the runs

obvoiusly for hell it doesn’t matter

enchant obviously addresses this. becuase then the high lvl can stay in town while giving you full exp because you are killing stuff yourself.
this is another mistake i see a lot, you want to keep the person killing the stuff within 20 level of you if at all possible, and 30 higher at the absolute most for efficient exp, else its really just faster to play normally, the lower the liver different between you and the higher level person killing the more exp is sent to you and the less sent to them, because its divided based on your levels

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Just keep posting, visiting foru, liking, reacting, making topics, you should get it i believe 2 months after you joined new forum if you had it before

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a bit off topic… but it took me like 6 months to get it on the pre-release d2:R forums, ( about once i reached 1000 posts) not sure why it went away when the forums migrated. kinda annoying

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Did you join this forum too late? because most of us who had it did get it like two months after new forum was released.

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i like that more too, but you never see those games. but with an enchant and players 8 its only 2 games to get to level 13 from level 1.