Every Class are dead except Pally and Sorc

pro tip:

Summon Necro can do the Ubers. Takes one point in Revive. Go resurrect some Urdars, that have crushing blow and they’ll beat the Ubers for you.

Also, max your corpse explosion. Once you have Enigma, your clear will be faster than that of the Sorceress… and you’re not gonna care for immunities, because one point into amplify damage reliably removes physical immunity… as opposed to the sorceress, where the infinity on your merc is not going to reliably remove immunities, because some monsters are too high level and it’s not going to work.

Also, the idea, that the Sorceress is the class, that can do anything is laughable. Freaking Pindleskin can give you a hard time when he ends up immune to your element and you’re gonna sit and wait on your merc to kill him…
not to mention Uniques and areas, where the monsters are consistently immune to your element.

Apologies, I wanted to say that it was meant to be hardcore only but then softcore and hardcore options were added before the release I believe.

Somehow I forgot to add the the game was originally meant to be only hardcore

Oh really? where did you read that from?

I can’t include links here but a quick google search will give you the answer.

I can’t say I’ve once had any issues with a Barbarian or Druid in Hell after I became proficient in the game (edit: except during the days that the Chaos Sanctuary had Iron Maiden flinging jerks all over). It all depends on how well you plan your combat area, know when to escape a bad situation and only needs moderate gear to get around.

Also wish these random new users that start these threads would stick around and debate their stances rather than just throw in their 2 cents because reasons and leave.

I’m proficient at the game, It’s not about the danger of death more the slog that makes it unfun. I always do far more damage on the other builds I talked about, it messes with the pace of the game in a unfun way. I’m also not saying those builds need to be as good as a hammerdin either, they never will as many of the builds I speak of will have far less aoe. I just think some builds need bug fixs and a few buffs nothing to make them surpass the current meta.

Paladin and Sorceress is very popular, and It doesn’t mean every other classes are dead.
I have seen a lot of players using Barbarian, Necromancer etc.

I’m gonna play Paladin / Sorceress, maybe try out a few other classes aswell, but my favorite classes is Paladin and Sorceress. Not because they are powerfull, but because I like sword / Shield and Magic.

heh, playing classic, no issue for me :stuck_out_tongue:

That’s not true… you can solo each class and Amazon, assassin and necro are strong in hell aswell.

well u not really played diablo much have u if u only think u can do stuff with pala and sors.

I beg to differ I’ve done plenty with the Bowazon,Javazon and a Assassin Hybrid Kicker/Trapper as for the Druid and Necro they bore the :face_with_symbols_over_mouth: :poop: out of me so NTY PS I’ve also played the Barbarian and while I didn’t like playing him as much as I liked playing the Amazon,Assassin I did just fine playing those too even got one to 80 in HC he’s gone now sadly :cry:as are many of my toons

With the consoles added & in game economy / consumer player base 20 years later I think there will be room for alts as well as experimentation. The only thing that scares me into a 2 class system is if the ladder seasons are crippled short. Otherwise there are many factors why people might venture off into previously shallow water.

It’s a shame you had that experience, as I never really saw it that way myself. It is true that for the meta hunt, sorc is the way to go Ladder wise but I’ve always done just fine with barbs. I think you can find a nice balance btween meta/fun.

this is just flat out not true.
i mean im not going to deny that paladin can clear hell easier and at like 1/10th the costs of most other chars, and sorc is effcient at farming bosses becuase of tele.

and yeah obvoiusly bowzon before high end runewords is pretty aweful in hell, and MA sin and Bear druid is a joke… and even wolf druid is the only melee class with no real way around immunites built into his skill tree

but, i mean… to say the other classes are “dead” is just wrong

bone mecro is totoaly a thing, as is fishymancer , and posion necro

jav zon is crazy powerful with charged strike even if poison is a joke
and barb also has a ton of endgame viabale builds even if most people really only stick to whirlwind
and while druid and assassin may only really have one trualy “fantasic” build in traps and windy,
other builds like wolf, even while having major issues with physical immunities are still incredibly fun.

just becuase palidin anfd sorc can do everything faster and at a fraction of the cost and in a more effective way donest make the other classes “dead”. it just makes palidin the best class and sorc the fastest class pre-enigma class

i mean i get what the op is trying to say… and yeah i would be ok with seeing some major love to MA skill tree and maybe change spirit of barbs to a spirit that granted a -1% phycail resist aura on enemies effected per lvl.

but thier not “bad” thier just not crazy op like palidin or have faster access to tele like sorc

They will release patches, 1 season will be great as 1.14

All the classes are great and have their own unique fun builds. You must just suck. Obviously sorc and pally are most OP and easiest to start with doesnt mean you gotta do it.

Here are strong starter builds for each class 1.14 , all effective and fun

Summon necro/ psn / bone
Javazon
Fury druid / elemental
frenzy barb
Trapsin / Martial arts or kick

You gotta remember d2 was so infected with bots, without them things will feel alot different without 100 thousand enigmas on week 1

After 18 or so years of playing, im trying a bow zon in SP, and it’s a PITA. Can’t figure out how to build the thing in the mid levels, with sh*t gear, and still kill stuff effectively in NM lol

well I have only done Bow Zon in Ladder, were I aim to have a Harmony bow to get me though nightmare.

I do a lot of chaos grinding in normal :stuck_out_tongue:

Once you get a decent NM Unique bow/crossbow or harmony bow, you can do nm pretty ez, in my experience.

Diablo is a Coop Game
so you can build good teams with your friends
for example Smiter and Bowama

most melee build suck in 1,14 having 0 senergy mean 99% of 1.09 build are dead mean also the history of diablo 2 , patch 1,14 is really a crap show with 0 balance caster rule the game overall and 95 % melee build suck , this is not the game i remember 20 year ago and is not the prime of diablo 2 , 1.14 is down the hill d2
pvp is unplayable and become a enigma spam 1.14 is a enigma spam :frowning: , this version show how blizzard is out of touch the same with wow and why all is player leave , now he are stuck with patch 1,14 with 0 update or balance mean a broken game , a remaster of a classic game with a modern gameplay ,

1,14 stay afk in baal room leech the bot to level 99 this is how you play 1,14 :frowning:

its up to you, how you spend your time with
this seems to be a boring way