Energy is Useless to Pump and Mana Shield is useless too

I messed up on my build and then I saw one with a Cold Sorc who uses Energy Shield so I did a Frozen orb Sorc with Energy Shield and put all extra point in Energy.

You would think the Damage would come from the Mana/Energy when she is hit - a lot of it doesnt! Energy Shield is Useless and pumping Enegy to make Energy Sheild strong is Useless too. I think I should go play that one Diablo Pathed clone- at Least in Path of Exile they saw their talents were bad and rrebuilt them - maybe I will go try it again since Blizzard made me wates a Respec on Endegy Sheild and Now I need to Respec my points to Vitality and Not make an Energy Shield Sorc.

There’s definitely a poor balance when it comes to stats, especially regarding energy which is just dead weight. Even extends to modern ARPGs like Grim Dawn where Physique reigns supreme and is pumped high for every single build, even if it makes no logical sense for a summoner necro to be running around ripped like John Cena. It’d be nice if energy actually increased magic/elemental damage (I think a mod does this, maybe Median? I don’t quite remember), but sadly it’s just a borderline useless stat in vanilla.

Energy is good for leveling, but yea thats it. Too many ppl look at guides “0 pts into energy” but that’s end game when you got the gear.

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Uh dont fret.
Have a napkin and sit down by the fire will ya.
Lemme tell you a story:

ES sucks for meta mf sorcs. yes its true.

  • skills, fcr, pump vit, mf
    is their religion.

ES however doesnt suck if you:

  1. Have points spare to max telekinesis to lower the ratio of 2 mana the 1 dmg to 0.75 mana the 1 dmg
  2. Know that even then ES damage is calculated without your resistances
  3. Play Hybrid because you never go full ES
  4. You know that IF u dont want to play Hybrid u NEED either SOJ or Frostburn and even then u have the issues: Mana Burn and Poison DMG.

If they Buff ES. I will prolly quit out of boredom.

You enjoy yourself :slight_smile:
Have a frabjous Day

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Even ES sorcs don’t pump all their stat points into energy. Why would you think that’s a good idea? They pump energy depending on their gear, but they need to balance it with vit and if they choose to, dex for blocking. Their stat layout is very gear dependent. And a well-built ES sorc is very very hard to kill.

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ive lvled a few chars with no energy. the key is to not over level the main skill you use but put points into synergies so it gets stronger but doesnt cost more mana and i load my pack with mana pots.

Or make Insight ASAP, really :wink:

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You could also drop like 20 pts into energy and cut the pots by half with no limitations for skills. You can also use totally different skills that aren’t necessarily viable end game but totally busted for normal difficulty and level quicker.

Holy fire for pals, exploding arrows, etc.

i beg your pardon?
i feel offended!
you almost popped my bubble!

lemme call Biden

20 Chars

:wink:

P.s. i beg to differ

This game is 20 freakin years old. There are TONS of resources for making correct builds. Do these people like OP do any research before coming to whine? Clearly not…

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I miss old D2 for that, so many skills are pointless. Poison javazons, spearzons, all the barbs, melee assasins, werewolf…

Now its all blizz sorc and hammerdins

Uh you wuldnt believe how much fun we have in our Team.

Our Druid just spect from Windyboi to Werewulf.
It is beautiful!
Marvelous.

4 Player Ubers soon.

No smiter anywhere near us.

Werewolf is good with gear, gl with Ubers. I’m about to try it myself as poison necro so definitely not a meta build here too

He is rocking Grief/Stormshield atm… you know low budget stuff.
The stuff that aint viable.
Poor boi aint even got Phoenix like the OG Gozus yet.
I know its terrible… bare with us.

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Are we playing the same game? Kill speed isn’t the single determining factor of viability and fun in D2, and neither is being able to clear Hell solo. I swear, WAY too many people treat Diablo 2 like 3 and make me wonder why they don’t play 3 instead. If an endless endgame and equally viable builds for every class is what you want, that game offers it. What it doesn’t offer is the amazingly fun leveling experience D2 has; y’know, that climb from being a nobody to slaying legions of advanced demons via hard work and good skill planning. But nah, let’s judge every single build by its speed at clearing Hell, like that’s all that matters to every single player. This mindset is exactly what gave us D3 and current PoE.

You know what one of my favorite memories in this genre is? Getting the **** scared out of me encountering the Butcher in D1, and experiencing the slow but meaningful growth of my character throughout that game. But it’s like nobody cares about playing the game anymore, it’s just the result they have at the end. All they want is to be in the top 1% of players even though it does absolutely nothing for them and they remain the same person sitting in the same room pressing the same buttons as everybody else, but they’re “special” because they did that same thing 500 times to get a rare drop.

There are so few people around anymore (and even devs) who actually understand the appeal ARPGs (and even just games in general) originally had, and instead treat all of them like every other modern game where everyone just rushes to the end and only cares about some arbitrary numbers. Gone are the days of telling stories about how you overcame a tough boss or made a strange build work; make way for the never-ending tidal wave of speedrunning zoomers and jaded millennials who all think that the only thing that matters is what you get at the end. It’s ****ing sad is what it is.

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It’s not even clear speed, gl doing hell with a bowazon or a summoner druid, you just can’t. Understand all these builds were fine before LoD and the RW / immunes and buffs to monsters.

The game was half finished and a lot of tuning was to come. I get your ideals, but the fact that 80% of d2 players have been playing dins and sorc for the past 12+ years means little people find it fun to clear content in 2h vs 15 mins.

This is so dope that a like just isnt enough.

I completly agree. That is understadning that its always about the Journey not the Goal you think to achieve in the End.
Its called wisdom.

The Mod that made me understand this like no other.
Is Requiem HC.
There isnt a more befitting Name.

Godspeed Brother

I’ve had good experiences with energy and energy shield, however I am doing FW/chain light sorc build, the +skills is good enough with just one point in energy shield and I stack a lot of %regen+max warmth(firewall synergy) and it does really well at absorbing loose damage as the regen is over 30 mana per tick, however for like any other build it does very little.

The world is huge and full of wonders.

IF you dont need holy freeze.
Take a look at Prayer with Insight.
More comfort than first class emirates.

Enjoy yoself!

Its definitely not useless, you just lack knowledge how to make good ES sorc