Earliest to find a 4os shield and Lem rune?

Working on making a spirit shield for myself and a treachery for my merc and I’d like to know when the earliest is you can acquire them? And for the shield when’s the earliest one with 4 os will drop not a shield I gotta take to larzak

Yo drop calcs are going to be your best friend because you’ll be amazed at the miniscule chances for virtually anything worthwhile and how much worse they are in the lower difficulties…

In short Lems are possible to drop in nightmare, best chance is hellforge but from general drops, it is much more likely you’ll find one in hell. Running hell countess is a decent spot…but I don’t believe in hunting for any specific item in this game, drop chances especially for runes are extemely small hence why we constantly see these “i farmed chaos/trav/countess/summoner/etc 46 times and nothing dropped!”

If you’re a pally you should be able to find a 4 os shield anytime from norm cows on. Otherwise for all other classes you have no choice but to use a monarch, an elite kite/dragon shield. Elite items can drop in a5 nm but are extremely rare. You can try to run a1 hell a bunch of times, run crypt/mausoleum/tower/cata and open all the armor racks you come across but I’ve been down that road and 99.999% only resulted in frustration.

Well, if I’d you mate I’ll do hell Countess runs till I’ll get Lem, directly or being able to assemble it. I’d skip 1st floor just to go to the exit, and on next ones I’d kill all enemies, open all containers etc. on the way to her - preferably on highest PlayersX comfortable for my character.

I bet you’ll get Lem faster than Monarch, so once done I’d change search location for the shield to Burning Grounds(skeletons and zombies, don’t bother with Blood Raven), Crypt and Mausoleum. Ofc, remove all magic find items, and again try to do than on higher PlayersX.