Do Devs Not Understand Frenzy Barb? Ptr Lolz

My Frenzy Barb is way better and way more fun to play than the stupid PTR Frenzy Barb.

What it needs is:

Gear: a ring with mana steal (3-5%), two grief instead of grief last wish, fortitude instead of enigma, dracs instead of Lay of Hands

Build Changes: 1 point in taunt for frenzy synergy, the rest of the points that would have gone into taunt for extra frenzy damage go into WW

Playstyle: Frenzy up on a mob, fly around whirlwinding at max run speed, use frenzy on thicc mobs or super uniques if WW won’t kill them fast enough. 1 point zerk for phys immunes

My barb is level 92 hardcore with this strat, can wreck every room, and makes cows look like a meat market. Can login and show the build if anyone wants to see

edit: I do understand this is not appropriate for ubers. this is for general slaying/farming

Edit 2: Here is a video I took doing travincal and then act 4 with this build. Bonus: IK chest drops around 16 mins in city of damned

I mean, javazon doesnt even have charged strike? Why were prerequisites skipped?

ring with mana steal not exactly needed
…last wish is not a good pair to Grief…go Lawbringer for Decripy curse*

Lay of Hand was the correct choice…dracul is meh…only good when on budget gear vs uber otherwise Lifetap is uneeded

edit: removed BK sword suggestion as its not the go to way for frenzy at all(i had WW in mind partly XD)

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you use reaper toll on merc for your decrepify. i have played with grief+law and grief x2 and grief x2 is significantly better

merc technicly an option to proc decripy but i would rather proc it myself instead of waiting on merc slow jabs XD

in such case would then use a weap providing missing CB % if i were to rely on Merc for Decripy…Death Runeword being best option…50% CB + 15% Gore + 35% Guillaume Helm(100% CB)
Deadly Strike Wise…49% Death…31%mastery…20% Grief(100% Deadly)
basicly make Highlord Wrath uneeded for Frenzy barb other than an edge for Frenzy ias procs…and Gore&Guillaume DS mean nothing…just there to look pretty…so Cats Eye amulet instead that way XD or Atma to have a competition with Merc for which Curse gets to be active

Last Wish would over-ride Decripy if proc life tap unfortunetly :S

if you run treachery and andy face and shael rune in your reaper toll, the merc is at like 90 IaS and attacks super fast. I get a ton of decrepifys. but even still, running two grief, you murder everything even when its not decrepified. if its physical immune and your merc is being stupid somewhere or stuck, you just use beserk and 2 shot it with berserk

try Death Runeword + Grief is your relying on merc for Decripy

that extra CB % is sick…especially for bosses

i do agree extra CB is worth. you can switch to Gface instad of arreat, or use death yes. this is also good for ubers

do you think maybe they purposely did this to get us switching around characters, muleing and popping in and out of games frequently straining the servers to test a brand new PTR environment? There would not have been as much strain if all the characters were just good to go.

agree the gear is pretty bad for melee

you are able to find a eth fortitude on your druid merc i think with a cham vampire gaze and a 2 ber Crown of Ages , i use it only for pvp

at least read the short ptr thread at the top of the page please

Laying of hands are better tho, good resist and most importantly great bonus vs demons. I have. I have double swing barb on HC and i leech just fine with gear I have without need of life tap from draculs. Also is not lawbringer better as off hand? so you can deal better with dangerous enemies or immunes.

I would honestly like to see your barb in action, idk why i have never thought about using frenzy buff and then WW. I never really liked WW but if its great together, i might try it.

sure i can login or stream anytime today

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Some of the stuff is reflective of the new skills/balance stuff they’re doing in the near future ptr

1 point in whirlwind is so absolutely critical for frenzy barb that I will never play barb without it again. Alot of players see me doing it and are shocked like ‘wow that’s so good’ and I am just kinda startled because it just makes so much sense that I can’t believe it’s not already the meta.

This is because even if you aren’t using WW for damage, the ability to move through enemies and reposition yourself in a fight is critical to staying alive and farming efficiently in hardcore.

It’s not really good for damage until you have insane weapons, but it still is really nice on enemies that are low hp/high numbers that you can just mow through.

This exactly. They made builds around the metas but not the right skills / gear in many cases. All the characters have all the GG gear on them to make most of the meta builds but you have to log in / swap stash and make games / switch chars to do it. Really cleaver, even though it does open them up for “devs don’t understand how their own game works” criticism.

I think they knew EXACTLY what they were doing here to get the PTR junkies to test exactly what they needed them to test here – the database changes to see if anything falls over under load.

Well i prefer to use leap for moving. Its much more save way than WW as WW might kill you as you still proc special stuff like fire enchanted if you kill mob.

Just a PTR where they want you to log in and out all day and create all kinds of characters and stuff. That’s why the gear is all screwed up, there is enough there to use shared stash and swap stuff around there is also a token character with token for you

leap is viable but ww you’re still doing damage when you move, and that’s also why i use dracs for the extra life steal. im on now ill stream for a bit or you can pm me Major#11761

edit:

Twitch live now

edit2: just dropped IK chest on stream :stuck_out_tongue:

I watched the recording and it certianly look as fun to play but i have few things to say.

I noticed that you dont use Find item, thats huge loss if you play hat build for MF or rune finding. About the WW, i am not sure about dmg output after being charged from frenzy, but it does seem to be problematic to use it. You are so fast that you pretty frequently just end up missing and doing long WW outside of monster packs.

I wonder why even use WW or frenzy when your double swing is doing so much dmg anyway and double swing already has +50% ias. Since you dont use find item I see that build as huge loss of skills points. You could easily gain like 20+ skillpoints to use elsewhere instead of WW.

I am not saying its bad, but I feel like its waste of points to invest so many points into attack skills.

I was interested to see it in cows, can you record that next time maybe when you will be playing? And show also equip.

My own barbarian is hybrid between Berserk and Double swing. I can do travincal almost just as fast as you and on top of it i have 52% chnace with find item. I can also do pindleskin extremely efficiently with even 1000 MF very fast. So I see it as better honestly. And I have only one grief, no forti. You see, I struggle to understand at what your character excel. Its completely fine if you play it for fun, its just me maybe. When I play certain build, I am playing it because it does something better than other builds.

But your barbarian is still great, it was nice to see it.

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