Diablo 2 is Trinity Realistic and it's Beautiful but not without Ugly Damages

Do you truly think that anyone cares about your made-up terminology? You are pointing out a non-existent issue that only exists inside your mind.

Now…after rethinking language with your made up notions, you are also reinventing mathematical syntax.

Oooh…the entitlement… You are truly a disturbed individual in dire need of professional help or simply a very dedicated troll with a crippling need for attention.

I only contribute feeding you. Your only salvation is to be silenced. You had your chance to have a normal debate, but you chose the looney approach again. Enjoy your next ban!

Not actually… the identity of repulsion and dependency are at two different corners of the triangle. The prior represents diversity and soloing, the later represents complimentary exertion.

And so therefor if we are missing out on as much as 2/3rds of a legitimate trinity, then who’s to say that we are standing on a stable foundation point of any trinity at all? The point we are standing on may actually be negative because we didn’t multiply the negatives to attain a clear positive in the first place.

Let me turn the + in to x since education is always turning…

Turning the interior of the soul as (+) so that it can see correctly as (x)

and so the ground we are currently standing on could easily collapse and this whole thing could fall apart.

I don’t care what you believe, I don’t think that anybody actually wants that to happen with a fully confident perspective that it could happen.


Nah, continue the thread productively.

@Cutthroat2: look up

I didn’t catch that, could you run it by me one more time?

Maybe people would understand better if you could record that song and put it on YouTube?

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Nobody has any clue what even you are talking about. Not that anyone would care anyway…
The point is you are unwilling to have a normal and honest conversation with the members of this forum.
This is the reason you are constantly belittled and not taken seriously. You refuse you step down from your imagined ivory tower and just have an honest conversation about your true intentions. For now you are perceived as the clown of these forums. And not even a good one.

This all definitely reads like schizophrenia. The OP seems to think they are unlocking the mysteries of the universe, but they’re actually just furiously scribbling indecipherable nonsense on the walls.

So how many corners does your triangle have after all, because you lost me…

My intentions should be apparent from my clear and obvious effort to undertake this deep and massive problem… I mean, what are you trying to get me to say? That I’ve been slowly dying for the last 20 years from a condition brought on by a head trauma that has caused me to wake up in the middle of the night screaming at the top of my lungs from next level terrifying dreams? And that I have been the only one to guide myself away from having them without professional help for which the supposed professional help would not have given me the advice that would have matched my own guidance away from the nightmares? You’re suppose to be telling me to keep that to myself… I’ve been cornered in to solving that for which I cannot solve and then this is just where my primal survival energy has been directed to, even if this is just practice at best.

Now… The title for the paper that I’m working on.

“The both Hidden and Missing Repulsion of the Divine Diverse Soloist(Amazon) that may solve the classic Rogue Problem”

So how has this Repulsion concept been hidden? Well, if you look at the base syllable of the words Divine and Diverse you get Div as an implicated relation to the word Divide. Now… the sense of that divide with the related words may have actually been present in the design of the game and that there is an apparent intention of covering that up with an inversion in the design. We know the Lightning Fury Javazon almost achieves an offensive cannon status with the full synergy build of a single element type(lightning) which also is giving an offensive impression. So that means that you would think that the 2 handed bowazon would be outputting at least as much offense but that’s simply not the case with physical damage and rightfully shouldn’t be because of life steal at least. So there is this sense of inversion between the physical bowazon and lightning javazon. That inversion whether intended to be there or not gives the impression that it’s trying to close a divide in the hero or mend the tear so to speak. But the issue now is that the divide is actually not even there when it should be, albeit in a subtle manner(which also makes the situation more complicated) with the trinity primal rogue archetype that the amazon fills. Why? Because repulsion has always been the right and proper concept in the trinity. If there actually was a divide in the amazon then the inversion would be clamping against that divide and so there would now successfully and properly be a sense of repulsion pushing outward against the clamp. But since the inversion is already there along with the implication from that base syllable Div… then what is missing is actually also being hidden. And it just makes it that much more difficult of a problem to effectively address when that divide most likely needs to be subtle because the roles of the primary heroes, i.e. divine soloist in this case properly gives an impression of being whole and undivided where as with the secondary trinity of heroes that are role hybrids, that is just not the same case…

And just as I clarified before, my intention is to exploit our fairly judged perceptions of the trinity that can successfully remove the negative connotations in realistic trinity schemes. Such as pushing out our immediately negative and emotional reactions to say the word Repulsion for suspectedly being Repulsive and Dependency for suspectedly being weak and clingy. It seems that a natural problem is created as soon as you isolate dependency separate from soloing and support and that is that the, say, sorceress for example must tear herself on two separate elemental masteries in order to be solo viable as naturally implied as a stand alone individual of the trinity. This makes perfect sense because complimentary exertion as an individual force in the trinity of forces is divided in to two separate but cooperative aims.

My intention is also to criticize philosophy overall in this matter and I’ll say that I believe one is missing out on at least 50% of what philosophy has to fundamentally be about if they are not primarily or equally concerned about Art and the Naively Realistic approach to the simple and mysterious structure and function of emergently sophisticated and additional colors and the 3 color structed patterns of the primary and secondary. With all do respect to the works of philosophers I still think that the motives are coming from a macho pride condition, almost like a small giant complex going on that is evident when trying to force philosophy to be scientifically reasonable when maybe all it needs is a quality mathematical direction that clearly serves the beautiful as opposed to the sublime which we should probably be trying to definitively nail down. I think that this macho pride small giant complex as a negative perspective of philosophy over all ironically consisting mostly of males is speaking for itself but it should be getting us to consider that the reason why it may be pushing away from Art is because of some kind of failure in the parent child or even father son relationship cycle where the child is pushed in to valuing rational reason exclusively instead of the liberal etherealness that also must realistically go along with it. The child seems biasly pushed towards rational reason in a need to grow up quickly and embrace the theme of Active Strength which naturally and sadly pushes away from or against Naive Realism and so the child ends up being quickly taught or conditioned to treat his own feelings as being worthless.

My intention is also to hopefully achieve a step forward for the role or spirit of parenting. To qualify or elevate parenting to a standard of good. I say good, not because the current situation of parenting is just so terrible. I say good because the general consensus from parents would be that good is coming from the direction of birth rather than the experience leading up to eventual death(from even parents of the greatest experience and example). And so our greatest hope in good parenting must therefore be coming from the birth of a good child. And so if we cooperate and I embrace my suspected inner strength of a good child through Naive Realism and you or they do their part as a Good Doctor(considering Sting’s point on therapy) then maybe we can successfully reach a goal of an actual step forward in general but more critically a step forward for the spirit or role of the Parent to a great standard or quality of good and then we may actually get a little relief and happiness to go along with it.

“Calling Dr. Rex to Cell block two
The nurses cry
Twenty inmates scream in their beds, but one
One is silent
An unusual case this one deluded
Psychotic then catatonic
The good doctor looks him up and down and smiles
It’s time for a game
Electricity is the prescription he needs
Bring him back to society
Electricity the cure that he really needs
Bring an empire to its knees
Inside his mind, sparks fly
Vague memories of a caved in broken life
Inside his mind, sparks fly
Vague memories of a caved in broken life
Electricity is the prescription he needs
Bring him back to society
Electricity is the cure that he really needs
Bring an empire to it’s knees
Make sure his arms are bound
And all his pills go down
Make all his secrets drown
Render his mind unsound
Inside his mind, sparks fly
Vague memories of a caved in broken life
Inside his mind (inside his mind), sparks fly (sparks fly)
Vague memories of a caved in broken life
Electricity is the prescription he needs
Bring him back to society
Electricity is the cure that he really needs
Brings an empire to its knees”

So basically you’re telling us that you hit your head when you were little.
Fair enough. Thanks for sharing.
May the force be with you! :vulcan_salute:

You don’t necessarily need a head perse… “All you need to be successful in the world is ignorance and confidence” - Mark Twain

And to recognize how the aim of most good music is to expose truth and in this case how the real heroes go unrecognized, because the goal isn’t fame and fortune or power.

An ode to the 2 suspected heroes missing…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZokLZV35MI

“Hero, not the champion player
Who plays the perfect game
Hero, not the glamour boy
Who loves to sell his name
Everybody’s buying nobody’s hero”


Also… back to the idea of a formula

Instead of -1x-1 = 1

Let’s say 11:11=1

A B C of a trinity because dependent and soloist are opposite concepts to each other
and opposites attract to represent C and then what happens is you see the barbarian as the support has these pseudo elements of soloing and dependency to reflect the melding.

So he depends on himself with battle orders to expand his life pool on an already high base life. You have to choose it because it’s so effective, not because the barbarian is nothing without it.

And then he sacrifices his defense down to 0 in order to use berserk. It’s pseudo because a sacrifice had to be made in order to make it happen.

But it’s an interesting implication. It’s as though the barbarian sets the example of what it means truly means to be an evolved enough dependant and soloist together which excessively yields their positives. Mastery that is universally effective(BO + Base life) and Free enough to sacrifice in a manner that’s universally effective (Berserk: Sacrifice for Magic Damage) and this excess is implicative of what is primal to truly be a support.

The barbarian is put on a pedestal as an ancient. 3 pedestals if you’ve been to the arreat summit.

So do we say that the original game developers had bad intentions?

Or do we say that the only real suspicion of a bad intention is that what comes in and stops this progressive dance between good and evil where the apparent evil is what beautifully allowed us to experience the greater good?

And maybe it’s about even innocently telling a greater story.

You don’t see that I’m legitimately trying to solve a psychological catastrophe and a realistic crisis at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aOyAvbj2Fg

“Faith… without… works… is
talk…without…works…is
faith…without…works…is
Dead, Dead, Dead, Dead.”


Latest Update 3/27/03

It’s all about the trifecta synergy between 4 life pool per vita, battle orders and natural resistance skill combined with a soloing capable skill berserk that pushes him out of any kind of implication of dependant role. And because of this side of the perspective coupled with the side of the sorceress as a split dependant investing in to two separate masteries (complimentary exertion) when she has no merc especially, it shows that she has always needed the ability to switch between complete and individual element builds on command. That’s common sense but it seems almost over powered if the soloist(amazon) cannot switch between extremes in her own right since repulsion should be part of her design. But with a skill such as “Fast Missile” which would drop her life pool per vitality point down to 2 with a 2 handed missile weapon while under the influence of this skill (like enchant) then she would also be switching melee and missile mode extremity comparable to the sorceress. And since both of these are a common sense necessity against the “universally independent barb” to be balanced it tells us that the key to balancing PvP, especially and particularly in 1v1, that there needs to be this alternating dance going on between builds for sorc, modes for zon and states let’s say for barbarian.

When the Amazon fights a Barbarian she will generally follow the approach of ranged physical with bow and melee physical with javelin. This is somewhat demonstrating the rock paper scissors counter system between Dex > Str > Int > Dex. But the barb will be counteracting this with a 1 handed weapon and shield unless he gets in close proximity and decides to switch two hand. But this might be where a skill like berserk would always hit when just using a 1 handed weapon.

The barbarian will be fighting the sorceress almost always with a two handed weapon unless she pulls a fast one and is a melee enchant sorc.

The pvp balance is clearly possible it’s just a matter of asking how a barbarian will initiate or land a hit in the end because leap attack can be evaded by teleport or zon switching to shield so easily. He just needs something like a burst of speed after he leaps. It’s the speed that must be the key to his dueling success. Teleport would be a nono. So in most situations you’d have the barbarian doing short leaps towards his opponents in a rhythm which triggers a burst of speed for a duration afterwards so he can close the gap.

In the spirit of aligning the technical thematic forces with the color themes you might start to see what’s going on between this connection between Yellow as Attraction(Barb) and Indigo as all 3 roles or forces in one(Necromancer). The answer as to why the Barbarian seems to be on this stand alone pedestal is because he’s both Soloist AND Support in the trinity but it’s only pseudo soloing because berserk reduces defense down to 0. The way that the colors reflect this design is how yellow is a variant of red more than blue. In fact, yellow is more the opposite of blue and the total opposite of indigo.

In the end we are left with the beautiful opposition between yellow(support) as a variant of red(soloist) with no blue at all(dependency) but still in total opposition to indigo(2 parts blue 1 part red) representing all 3 roles with the Necromancer.

And then when you behold this opposition overall in concept. It ends up making sense because the necromancer is trying to expand his army(many) while the barbarian is trying to expand his life pool(one).

It’s a beautiful contradiction between opposition and relation…


Latest Information Update:

Continued work from the D2R forums where I had a thread restored against the community that made the point that Diablo 2 is both Trinity Realistic and Naively Realistic which makes the situation not good because of progressively sexist game design implications which appear to maliciously target Defenseless Dependents. I was also disciplined and accused of trolling for pointing out how the golden ratio could be used as guidance for both a step forward of 2 additional heroes in order to finish the job of embracing as much character identity in the trinity fractal as possible and wondering if this idea is so good and it’s the next step, then what is so great about the 7 hero history of Diablo? (2 and 3)?
What’s wrong with getting off of and taking a step forward from 7?

Latest 3 perception works which indicate that “Somewhere over 8” (which could point to golden ratio significance)

https://ibb.co/sHLBgs6

what this shows us is that the colors which have been excluded from the rainbow are actually aqua marine and chartreuse. But when seen from a perspective of color combining instead of separation it basically ends up being an implication that olive and brown have been excluded. So in other words… if we don’t get aqua marine and chartreuse added in to the colors of the rainbow, then it can surely be an accurate accusation that we are guilty of excluding olve and brown.

Let me just put this as elegantly as possible… On top of the impression of a progressively sexist situation?

That doesn’t look good.

https://ibb.co/0qRb8nG

And I would like to make some points about the prior image. Let’s say that this Diablo 2 example of Trinity Realism is only 2/3rds accurate because we know that there is no dependency role (alternating between mastery represented by shades of blue) with the Amazon because the Amazon never qualifies as a glass cannon. First of all, that only may be half true, because what if the interpretation of mastery with Elemental Bowazon is in a manner of elemental effect and utility?(The Freeze and Burning effect of elemental bow skills that completes a complimentary exertive concept). Second of all, even though it may be 2/3rds accurate with the Sorceress switching between a pair of elemental masteries in a practical soloing sorceress build and a barbarian with the soloing role(red as berserk) imposing in to his root support role(sacrificing defense to make legitimate) represented by the force of Attraction, there still might be an additional unseen or unconsidered factor going on that ties the sorceress back in to the barbarian in the trinity.

Let’s investigate…

Sure, you could simply say that since the Sorceress has the enchant skill that this represents support and that is how blue and yellow tie back in to red and yellow, but you would be overlooking a major contender… Sacrifice. And if you had not considered it, then why didn’t you? Think about it. If the Sorceress spends as much mana on enchant as she does and properly so then she must be, even to the slightest degree, making a sacrifice to either her energy shield or offense for casting other spells. Therefore, this is solid reasoning and proof for how the sacrifice concept ties back in to the Barbarian as he sacrifices defense for a completely pure damage conversion with the skill berserk. Now I would like to provide a super facinating example of how Naive Realism emphasizes the significance of how the proper 2 shades of blue tie back around in to red and yellow.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/897871598109669?fs=e&s=m

So apparently a stronger argument is made that the perception of trinity realism is 2/3rds accurate with the Barbarian and the Sorceress and another potental 1/2 accurate with the Amazon, and then another degree of accuracy because of the sacrificial manner in witch the sorceress properly ties back around in to the barbarian in accordance with Naïve Realism is more than enough evidence to support the unfortunate difficulty of the situation. And I say unfortunate with self disciplined optimism. And that situation is that we have a meeting point of Trinity Realistic, Naïve Realism, Progressive Sexism, and the Malicious Targeting of Defenseless Dependents.

And what is the counter argument for the step forward going to be? That the game wasn’t designed to be played forever?

I saw a quote today… “What makes you a legitimate thinker is not your beliefs, but your capacity to change your beliefs based on information”

Would you say to me that we cannot simply win ONE, JUST ONE for the youth that has to be the backbone consumer to the gaming industry by setting the example of finishing the job so that way it appears as though future installments are continued retranslations and expiraments with a finished job rather than coming off as a continuation of milking an unfinished job?

“If it isn’t broken, then don’t go back to fix it, but if you do go back to fix it then make sure you finish the job” -Axiom of Culture

https://ibb.co/r60W7Vy

and 3 other perceptions from previous thread that was restored by the devs

https://ibb.co/T4RK7yQ
https://ibb.co/7z7czYx
https://ibb.co/7tzgfdS

It’s important to understand that Diablo as the mother of all RPGs really should be setting the example and not trying to deny that it has a Trinity Realistic structure which has an impact on the Naively Realistic perception of the youth and when there is an opportunity to step forward realistically which simultaneously and mostly leaves the immoral and unethical implications behind then why aren’t they considering this option or explaining why this option is bad?

It’s also important to note that I have been locked out of the D2R forums and not this forum because they know how I feel and are aware of my journey in fighting an immoral and unethical battle so now they can secure another sale from my bank account because they know I will continue fighting this.

Why wasn’t I locked out of this thread also?

This sort of thing has happened to me many more times than just once…

This post is really truly my final message, and I will take this pursuit elsewhere and keep pressing regardless of discipline or thread removal. You might want to save this thread and consider it instead of throwing it away.

I demand answers, negotiation, discussion or compensation. Something other than this neglect.

Additional concern:

So the machine gunning Assassin and the round bursting Amazon are going to be either left on or put on a pedestal while the archetypes of a family are going to be neglected or thrown under the bus, 2/3rds by the malicious targeting of defenseless dependents through progressive sexism?

https://www.facebook.com/100009172689943/videos/227614799685567