D4 dead, D3 dead and now D2R dead... what are blizzard actually doing?

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Another nothingness season. Despite them making promises to add rune words and adjust balance every other season.

So many staff, yet SO LITTLE of anything.

Who made the decision to give D2r players absolutely nothing yet again? Not everyone wants to play your cash cow, so at least give your other loyal customers SOMETHING.

I’m salty because I was looking forward to a D2R season and this was the one where we should have had some changes to shake up the meta at least a little. Mosaic is currently in a broken state, it overshadows anything else by a huge margin. People have been relentlessly posting thorough and detailed feedback posts for blizzard, and for what? So they can say “don’t expect anything, yet again”.

A single developer could push out something in a day that we would be happy with, even if slight numerical changes to underused skills/abilities. Why are you so against it Blizzard?

Time to wake up and see that the way you are running your games, and your company is not what the players want. We pay your bills, not vice versa. Time to start respecting us and putting in some work imho.

The worst part of this, is that it creates zero hype, just a deflated playerbase. Streamers defo won’t be returning for this season. People won’t be theory crafting, and no new videos are going to go up on youtube. At least making some changes will at least give the game a bit of a boost in playerbase and excitement in the community, which IMHO is sorely needed atm. But no, we can’t have it. Their cash cow has spoken, all hands on deck for the next PAID D4 expansion coming in 6 months. lol… You can’t make this stuff up.

Reputation lingers and travels, and Blizz is doing a very good job ensuring their reputation is deserved.

You still have time Blizzard. Even if not skills or balance changes or rune words, SOMETHING like stackable gems.

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Well actually something like stacking gems is a new mechanic that needs lot of work and testing.
Balance changes are mostly about just changing a number in a file or code… a 10 seconds of work…

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This undervalues the huge amount of conceptual work that really needs to make a good balance change. Otherwise, you’ll probably have them substitute their own analysis for someone elses: that’s how we got mosiac in its current form. Balance changes are way more than just tweaking a number.

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Ok so let’s just get nothing instead… lol

go look at what POE pumps out every 4 months then come and say that it takes too much work to make any meaningful changes

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Maybe they want the pro change players to disappear… After all, an anti-change player base is much easier to cater to… (They’ve been doing so with the OG for quite a while now.) Just keep the server (barely) running and reset the ladder two or three times a year.

Raymond the Janitor could handle that while also making his rounds through the building. Two buttons…

:green_square: ← To reset ladder, press this button (P.S. Requires suit approval)

:red_square: ← To reset the server, press this button (P.S. Only do this if forum is rolling about server not working!!!)

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but you have to understand… GGG is a billion dollar company, and has to charge for the game before also adding micro-transactions. else they cant afford to pay their CEO billions of dollars while pissing off literally every player. and treating their employees like garbage.
so they can AFFORD to push patches out

OH WAIT…

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To give you a better answer
D4 was their plan on how to make money for the next 7 years or so probably.
Wow is in perpetual decline.
What other games are they going to publish in that time frame? No plans to make Starcraft 3 apparently. No new warcraft 4. Some new survival RPG thing apparently in the mix.
They’re probably all hands on deck trying to learn what other people told them prior to D4’s release so they can try to salvage the heap of crap they made

If D4 sinks, they have no other game plan.

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I’ve asked a few streamers if they will be playing d2r this season as we are due new runewords, all their eyes lit up… and said yeah let’s wait for patch notes.

It’s going to be another dead season sadly. While we all twiddle our thumbs… waiting for the miracle of a game that Blizz decide to finally make good. AKA not happening.

I’m glad their incompetence is finally coming to light however. D4 is a meme at this point, and a just one. It’s an embarassment of a product and was missold (notice a theme here? Rune words every other season lol), over advertised and didn’t deliver. The people in charge, sadly need to be ousted and new management need to be brought in to salvage it.

It’s a failed product, through and through, but to then neglect all your other products as a result is just not OK. The people at the top who decide “D4 good, D2/D3 bad no monthly income” need to be fired. It’s a poor work ethic, a poor model for consumers, and is not doing them any favours. Every salty individual is one customer lost.

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Why do you keep trying? Is it not yet clear that blizzard don’t care?

As above, they don’t care. Time to stop trying 'cause nothing is gonna change.
Their focus is on D4 and i’m gonna guess it’s all hands on deck because it shat the bed.
Why would they spare a developer to work on D2R?

No we can’t, so let it go. You’re only torturing yourself at this point.

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i mean logically, they should because, a ton of people haven’t bought d2:R and because it would take very little time effort to fix the few minor flaws it has, and make it become like how it was in the 2000’s where it sold by word of mouth of being one of the game games ever made, they could get a ton of player back, as well as some new ones.

the problem with that is… they would need to show enough effort to at least attempt to ban the spambots, and actually do bans on the botters.

blizzard need to choose to prioritize the players over the illegal sell sites.
which u know… should come as a no-brainer but… this is blizzard.

or at the very least, if they arnt going to fix thing properly, then split off the asia realm so it stops spilling into NA and EU… to contain the damage.

its not the ideal scenario but its the cheapest

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They don’t even do “free wins”. It’s not a good company. They just have the most marketing and advertising available. I’d be so embarrassed if I worked for them, legit. The people in these “camp talks” are all getting the brunt of it, oblivious it is literally ruining their careers. Reputation followers.

I urge them to think twice before being thrown under the bus. Pez this includes you

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Right… but why would blizz market d2r to those new players rather than marketing d4? Blizzard’s intention is to sell yearly battle passes and expansions. They are a profit-first company not a fun-game-first company.

As someone who also played it in the 2000s I probably don’t want the game how it was back then. Who has the same kind of time to dedicate to how it was back then? Not me, not most people.

for its time, sure.
It was great for its time but we all got old and now we expect modern games to have more quality of life than they did back then. Most new players aren’t going to want to play d2r, it feels clunky in comparison to others.

You probably only want to play it because of nostalgia and the feelings it gave you back then.

It’s been two years and they haven’t made an attempt to do any of that though. Why keep asking?

Doing what they’re doing now appears to be the cheapest option. Why would they change? There are no consequences to the choice they’ve made.

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ROFL,

that is complete delusion.
every choice blizzard makes has consequences.

blizzard WANTS d4 to be their cash cow… however they chose to ignore all player input.

d4 is such a hot mess it would take a TON of time and effort to fix, and it would still likely be a hot mess and not drag many people back.

d2:R would take very little time and effort… they could get MUCH more “bang for thier buck” by a putting a few people into d2:R.

would they make as much fixing d2:R? no of course not.

blizzard is the company who wants cheap quick fixes.

d4 is not a cheap quick fix.
d2:R as of now… IS

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The problem with Blizzard doing anything with D2:R, is Blizzard is largely noob in comparison to the knowledge of the two decade+ old player base. Have you seen some of the job requirements to work at Blizzard? I seriously doubt they have time to play games, let alone their own games to know what direction to take D2:R. You think Bobby Kotick has mandatory “game time” on the agenda to keep his gaming company employees passion for games up to par? HAHAHAHAHAHA not.

So instead of relying on self-enlightenment, they are likely drawing off of the knowledge the player base spills out here and there in the forums, twitter, reddit, livestreams, etc., which can be rather spotty to sift through and organize.

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I was talking about D2R.
You’re still here on their forum, you’re still playing their game, you’re still begging for changes and are ready to gobble them up and pay for them should they arrive.

Why would they do anything differently when you’re still sitting there begging for more despite years of displayed behaviour that they won’t? They will not implement your suggestions because the ones they’ve chosen (for D2R) has no consequence.

Yep. and yet they still made a tonne of money off it. I’m sure the shareholders are 50% stoked at the money they made and 50% concerned about the future money they may not make based off the current reception to D4.

My sheer speculation on their state of mind is going to be to put all hands on deck for D4 so that they can continue selling it to people (who have not yet realised what is happening) for years to come as opposed to diverting those resources into D2R which has less profit potential.

I don’t understand how you can accuse me of delusion and then come out with this golden nugget 60 seconds later?

Listen to what you’re saying. They fumbled D4, it’s a hot mess… your words… and yet you think they have the desire/skills/devs/other to work on D2R and somehow make it into this super fun super profitable game?

How?? Look at what they just created. You literally have the result infront of yours eyes and you yourself said it was a hot mess. They had 10 years to create it and that’s the result they delivered. How are the same team/company/upper-management going to somehow create magic if they divert their attention to D2R? They have already demonstrated that they can’t. Don’t you see that? I don’t understand why you don’t see that.

I never really liked the cope memes that people post but now I get it. It’s sheer cope on your part. Blizzard cannot give you what you want D2R to be.

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I think they smoke too much weed at blizzard and hire too many ladies

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Because thankfully some of us, despite not liking a product, still give feedback on how the company f*** up. Yes there are a few of us, but go look at the reddit. It’s all the same comment that vast majority are DISSAPOINTED.

If anything, i’m glad to provide feedback that the company these employees work at is, categorically trash. Bottom of the barrel low tier. Just alongside everyone else.

I’ve said it before, and i’ll say it again… reputation travels. blizzard are just cementing their own coffin as to WHY they are no longer a reputable company. many people feel scammed, mislead, and these criticisms are valid. They should be heard and seen by those who have made the decisions quite frankly.

How embarassing the most hyped game of the year, is literally known as D4BAD amongst the world? Hey “dont you guys have phones?”

blizzard just keep missing the mark. It’s over for them sadly.

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Uh huh, and how has that worked out for you guys so far?

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It’s brought shame to the people that are greedy and make these awful decisions, it brings discord within the working environment when everyone knows their product is garbage and no one has any pride in it.

I’m happy with that tbh. The people responsible get the ultimate blame and i’m glad for that.

The person who said to Pez to tell the community “no changes this season” is incompetent. Plain and simple.

pez is sadly just the messenger who gets thrown under the bus. The guy has no shame. Imagine working for a company that does that to you? I’d tell them to get lost.

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The people doing the actual work on that game just want their mortgage paid and their family fed.

I’m sure most of them would love for their work to be appreciated and for them to feel like they’ve achieved something loved by the community… but they probably just want to be paid for whatever work their boss asks them to do (even if they don’t agree with the end product) so that they can put food in mouths and go home at the end of the day.

You making them feel like crap isn’t going to bring about any sort of positive change.

Stop buying blizzard products, that’s probably the only lever you have to pull to make any sort of changes to the people who are steering the ship.

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