I as well agree with him & at this point I feel Sept 23rd should Be full on Beta 1-5.
The games Simply Not ready to be launched in its current condition.
it could have negative impact on the community for the game.
So please Before you reply watch the video.
thanks, BTW since I been here yesterday or last night it appears many posts/threads have already been removed. what does it hurt to drop the video again.
Does it effect your OCD?
Blizzard likely won’t allow full access to all acts because they expect to get new players - who in the beta would be able to play the full game for free for those who have never played it. That’s something they just don’t do.
However, they may be convinced its good for the game if people who clearly are committed to diablo do get to test all acts - perhaps a requirement that they’ve owned the game(d2) for a substantive amount of time.
The reason they’re not allowing the use of all 5 acts isn’t related to preventing “spoilers”. The entire game and its contents are available to spoil online in the form of forums, videos, pictures, etc.
There’s a number of more valid reasons they’d not allow it but I’m not really concerned.
Coooly, like Rhykker, just likes to talk a lot. People constantly claiming information they have no knowledge about.
Everyone seems to forget or not know because of failure to read official statements;
The beta we were playing is not representative of the work in progress that they currently are working on. The Beta Client they gave us is an older revision, they only used it because it’s likely close enough to their current model’s stable Battle.net platform for testing the server’s load capabilities (and to withhold information regarding any new progress they’ve made). Circumstantial evidence points to all of this, everyone just needs to chillax and actually do some research before losing their marbles or assuming the doomsayers are correct.
The end point I’m trying to make here is… Wait until the beta is out, then rip into Vicarious Visions if the game is still broken. They know what they’re doing.
I mean, that’s two days away. Some of the bugs present in open beta were in alpha - and i don’t want wait to see them fix it in release when complaints should have been made earlier. I found bugs that Cooley didn’t - so its not just i’m depending on his list alone.
That’s literally what happened with D3 - i’m not giving this company the benefit of the doubt at all - not after D3. D2:R is likely the last good game that blizzard will release outside of overwatch 2(unless you count something like classic WOTLK - which isn’t really a release).
Each player finds their own issues based on what they are used to playing. Cooley had a totally different list than mine and he had better insight on the common things I had found. I was only able to say weapon swap was ‘off’ while he could point to exactly what was wrong. He was using alt to keep you locked in one spot while I had always used shift, to each their own.
In the end I agree with this last suggestion. Sept 23 should be considered the final open Beta and not a real release. The official release should be when Ladder starts and that will give VV time to get the rest of the issues we find in A3-5 and with the Necy and Sin. If VV really believes they can add three more acts and two more chars and we won’t find a thing they are deluding themselves. They have been put on a ridiculous schedule to get the game out that it’s going to launch and not be ready.
The problem with Diablo 3 wasn’t because of failure to comply. The problem with Diablo 3 was it was directed by the Lead Director of World of Warcraft - and as everyone knows, WoW was always in a sorry state from beta to launch between every expansion.
It was the culture that destroyed Diablo 3. The Lead for Diablo 3 had never played an ARPG in his life. He had never made an ARPG in his life. His entire career experience was founded on MMO’s.
A lot of the bugs probably don’t exist in the working test client (the one they are developing, not the one we tested). Furthermore, we weren’t playing the beta to test any features what so ever. We were there to break their server as hard as we could and surprisingly we failed that, lol. So the servers might be ready for prime time. (we’ll see for sure during open beta)
Sure, we might catch a few bugs on the way that they didn’t know about and that’s good. But we don’t know what those bugs are until and if they decide to disclose that information to us.
Jay Wilson made RTS’s. Rob Pardo might have given greenlight to what Jay Wilson did - but it was basically Jay Wilson driving things.
You’re right that its in part not because of enough beta testing - but beta testing beyond the rehashed leoric would have raised alarm bells that the game was trash.
I just don’t care to give them a pass at all - no matter what. They’ve produced actual garbage and stuff that wasn’t garbage but not tested properly that could have been tested. They don’t always fix those problems, and if they do - they don’t fix them properly - that is very much true of WoW right now.
I have no doubt about this. For sure, a lot could have been done to prevent Diablo 3 from sinking. But ultimately, the captain at the helm let it sink with or without us.
I’m giving Vicarious Visions the benefit of the doubt because of the fact they’re their own team working separately from Blizzard. No Blizzard personnel are involved with the development of D2R outside of the cinematic crew from my understanding.
So, when all is said and done, I’ll reserve my judgement for launch day, because I have a good feeling they’re very much on target with their intended final product launch.
That’s fine - but it doesn’t really address why i won’t give them a pass - i’d rather beta test the game that we all know since its not about content. Giving them a pass to just release it when its pretty clear that its not just a re-skin layered over the original isn’t going to end well.
And i do think its partly about sales. People can ruin the game for themselves all the way - but many people won’t. Do you literally watch people play the full game before buying it? I don’t.
They were literally absorbed by blizzard recently and will be made to bow to those pressures that blizzard experiences. I understand - but i don’t think its that simple now. lets just say i’m willing to give the VV team more leeway than blizzard - but i recognize they’re now officially apart of it.
If in the open beta you can still steal people’s items in the trade menu that’s your canary in the coal mine moment that something is really, REALLY, wrong.
I’d rather give them more time to have everything fixed too - even if it means no open beta for all acts. I don’t want this thing to be broken on release.
I agree with you here Cooley isn’t thee only one with a List of things that should get some fixing.
Strongly agree unless they Release the game all messed up.
this “could” be a Launch disaster. it has that potential with its current condition.
or in Cooleys words Shyt show.
I’m just here to try and alleviate some of the sense of dread that everyone is feeling… If you feel you don’t trust them still even after what I’ve said, that’s fine. I’m not here to say you’re wrong for it but at the end of the day, I feel everyone could stand to at least hear some potentially positive information or feedback.
All of this sense of dread and doomsaying based on the beta is very unproductive because we have zero information on the current state of the client they are working on.
We’ll all be playing at the end of the day when it launches, and it’ll all work out, that much I’m certain.