I am curious if there would be interest to create community of players who will play only with each other. The idea is to have closes community of players not affected by botting or jsp. Players would only play together and trade within the community.
Anyone would be interested in something like this for new season?
Thats a really nice thing. We got a (german) community which basically has this mindset. It’s an open community but it always feels like playing with friends. I can tell this at least about the HC part of the community (in previous seasons 20-40 people).
So you only trade with others in that community? And also play only together not public games? Would someone who can only speak english isssue? I mean do most speak english there too?
if JSP is cheating, so is traderie. Stoping RMT is impossible. stop posting nonsense stuff like this. The only way JSP would disappear is if blizzard made their own fg. Even then, people would still use real money.
The only problem with JSP (or any trade facilitator that allows “credit banking” or trade of NL for L items) is that one can carry earned wealth from previous ladders into future ladders, which gives an advantage over those who do not use them. That’s the only problem I have with it. Other than that, it’s a great way to trade… It certainly beats dredging through game names/creating games and waiting to see if someone will join.
concise and precise! wealth carrying over to the ladder is problematic for non users. So was being angry about JSP all about not having your name on the ladder board? I didn’t know people really cared about that stuff.
JSP fanbois will never get it…
Even if you don’t care about ladder it will heavily impact economy. If some people early in the ladder invest into a full equipped char, they can farm very effective early on and bring more high value items into the economy by finding them much faster, which in return affects market values. This is just one point you didn’t think about among others. But hey, keep fighting for your beloved JSP until death, lol.
In other news: Yes, I know multiple high ranked HC players who care about the ladder and don’t cheat by skipping the “reset” part of the ladder “RESET”. They are annoyed by cheaters as I am. And yes… not resetting your wealth on the LITERAL reset is cheating.
more trading? efficient trading? yes please.
so you want to waste another 100 hours to get shako? play d4 man.
you view the resetting ladder as a race to the top. fair enough. but there are bots that level up for you. In this case, JSP isn’t the only problem.
I use JSP so I can get my pvp items. I couldn’t care less about my name on the ladder board. I was once against JSP but the efficient trading it provides makes my life so much easier.
In an ideal world, it would be nice if Blizz could somehow regulate players from not using JSP until the first 20 players reached the ladder board. This much I can understand but trying to outright ban JSP just sounds very communistic my guy.
d2r and d2 has always been so full of bots that the chances are 80% of all items in circulation are botted.
Just looking at the leaderboards and seeing hundreds of lvl99 speaks for itself.
Either way, closed community playing and trading only with itself will only work in a private server, as we all know people will go and trade outside of it otherwise.
If only the game had the ability of forming guilds… One of the guild leader options could be to restrict members to only playing and trading within the guild. There could also be a guild “ladder board” which ranks the members based upon experience gained by default, and perhaps other sortable attributes.
Sadly something like that is impossible to enforce. Even if you formed a group like that, many more than you’d like to think would “cheat”.
For myself, I wouldn’t be interested, but I’ve never liked guilds or isolated groups in any game I’ve played, it just goes against my grain.
No, traderie doesnt use currency outside of season or game modes, JSP does.
I usually play whenever I have time and a good TZ is up. if nobody of the community is online at that time, would I not be allowed to play? If I’m allowed to play when nobody is there, how do you know that I didn’t find a Jah and a Ber for my enigma?
Not that I care much about it, but you can’t really be sure if somebody trades on jsp if you don’t force the people to always play in groups. And everything that is “forcing” somebody to do things in a certain way is usually no fun.
No one would be forced to do anything… It’s a predetermined set of rules that one agrees to in order to participate… If one doesn’t agree to it or doesn’t find it fun, then they don’t have to participate. Unless their idea of “fun” is breaking rules that is, which brings us back to the root reason why we’re talking about this in the first place… Cheating.
Just my thoughts about this part in Zax post:
Seen communities try such things lots of times and you will always have people bending or breaking the rules.
Yep… It’s an unfortunate reality. There’s always someone who is going to cheat.
If there was a game that required only breathing to play, there would be someone cheating.
can we appreciate the level of cognitive dissidence it takes to blame JSP when there are literally sell sites spamming in lobby so much you cant even chat.
you don’t even freaking use money on JSP, you trade items/services for FG and FG for items/services.
the issue is the bloody asia botting sites, and sell site spammers.
not JSP.
at least direct your anger toward the actual issue
and stop trying to use jsp as a scapegoat
jsp does not affect the economy, it does not “makes items less expensive”
it makes it so people can find a person to trade with
if your mad about the ecnomy being trash after 2 weeks becuase people have 20+ HRS
thats becuase of botters… and sell sites… not jsp
who the hell cares if people can use money from previous ladders, what do u think your postion on the ladder means something??
how many people do u think are going to spend 10-100x the price of an item, to get it Day 1-3 when they can get it a week later for a minicule fraction of that cost.
if u know absolutely anythign about supply and demand the only people buying GG items the first few days are botters. becuase they bleed value faster than anything during thew few two weeks… and unless u can play nonstop to near guaentee you you make up that loss liek abot does… its going to be a massive net negative
people arnt going to pay 6k for something they can buy for 600 in 3 days time
the start of ladder is a sellers market on jsp… not a buyers
This sounds like a very interesting idea.
That reminds me of my old Amazon Basin days, that’s what it was there. I’m not sure if any of them are still playing, last I checked in a year ago there were a few people playing still. it might be worth seeing if their forums are still going…although I’m sure it’s a discord or something else these days. I don’t keep up.
That’s pretty much how I play still but I don’t have any real solid time, I get to play when I get to play and I’m usually interrupted by wife and kids.
I think it’s a great idea, but impossible to ensure people aren’t just trading with bots on the side. I would participate in something where you had to be cam streaming the entire time. And if caught playing without being on stream, you’re kicked out of the community until next ladder.