Cheapest laptop to run legacy vs new graphics?

I saw a thread from september 2021 but nothing recent.

my main gaming is on my desktop with a GTX 1070. I want to buy a laptop (US) primarily for d2r when i’m not at home. i’m debating between a super cheap laptop that uses legacy graphics vs playing the new graphics on low settings.

would integrated graphics on laptop run this on legacy graphics? there’s a 300$ laptop at walmart with 8 gb ram, and AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700U Processor with Radeon™ RX Vega 10 Graphics. would this run the game?

would i need a dedicated graphics card to play the new graphics? eg the GTX 1650?

i’m not looking to buy an 800$+ gaming laptop. really just the cheapest thing that runs the game ok.

Diablo II: Resurrected System Requirements

MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS RECOMMENDED SPECIFICATIONS
OPERATING SYSTEM Windows® 10 Windows® 10
PROCESSOR Intel® Core i3-3250/AMD FX-4350 Intel® Core i5-9600k/AMD Ryzen 5 2600
VIDEO Nvidia GTX 660/AMD Radeon HD 7850 Nvidia GTX 1060/AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT
MEMORY 8 GB RAM 16 GB RAM
HARD DRIVE SPACE 30 GB
NETWORK Broadband Internet connection
RESOLUTION 1280 x 720

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Here is a comparison of the minimum graphics card requirements (performance wise) with the Radeon Vega 10 Mobile:

https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Radeon-Vega-10-Mobile-vs-GeForce-GTX-660-vs-Radeon-HD-7850/3857vs2152vs323

Processor wise, the performance of the Ryzen 3700U well exceeds the minimum processor requirements of the game. However, when you see a “U” on a mobile chip, that means ultra-low power. Benefits = Good battery life. Drawbacks = Crappy performance. (specifically speaking of the integrated graphics)

Storage wise, chances are that $300 laptop has a mechanical hard disk, which are awful for running D2:R… And if it does have a solid-state drive, it’s likely a very small and mediocre quality solid-state drive.

RAM wise, that laptop is sitting at the minimum, which means that your storage device will be working overtime with the RAM swap file in order to free up enough RAM to run the game. Loading times will suffer.

IMO that $300 laptop would be fine for browsing the internet, typing up documents, watching Youtube, but not playing any modern 3D games.

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Keep in mind the Legacy graphics are not on by default. When you start the game the computer has to meet the core game requirements or it won’t start. Once started you can switch to Legacy to reduce strain, but the game code is running on a newer engine.

Here are the system requirements.

I had it running on a 9 year old laptop that was just below specs, which surprised me. I would not recommend that though as it did not play well.

Yes. D2R currently only supports dedicated graphics cards. People have gotten it to work on some higher end integrated, but it is not supported and tends to crash/not start.

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wait for the new AMD APU’s that feature navi2 in them IE 7000G and U models these new apus paired with some high speed DDR5 and a good sku will SMOKE a series S xbox use no power and be quite something.

im on the same boat waiting for the new AMD APU’s, they will make low end 7500 and 7400 GPU cards useless and i wont be surprised if amd stopped making such a lower end SKU

its also why AMD is sandbagging with there APU’s cus they dont want too lose that income that lower end skus bring in

u wont make as much money selling a all in one chip VS a lower end GPU card and a mid tier CPU.

also a 3700U will play D2R on 1080p mid settings and AVG 75 FPS my 3200U with only 3 vega cores plays it at 720P mid settings and gets avg 40 fps so a 3700 has 3 times the GPU cores so should be playable but again the new APU’s are around the corner might aswell wait

i can’t link posts, but this is the laptop:

Gateway 15.6" Ultra Slim Notebook, FHD, AMD Ryzen 7 with Radeon RX Vega 10 Graphics, 512GB SSD, 8GB Memory, Tuned by THX Audio, Fingerprint Scanner, 2MP Camera, HDMI, Windows 11 Home, Charcoal Black

  • Windows 11 Home
  • AMD Ryzen™ 7 3700U Processor with Radeon™ RX Vega 10 Graphics, 2.3GHz base, Up to 4.0GHz
  • 15.6” IPS FHD Display, (1920 x 1080)
  • Fingerprint Scanner
  • Precision Touchpad
  • Tuned by THX™ Audio
  • 512 GB Solid State Drive
  • 8 GB Memory (RAM)
  • 2.0 MP Front-Facing Camera
  • Up to 10 hours of battery life
  • Micro SD Slot (Up to 512 GB) x 1
  • HDMI Output x 1
  • USB Type-C x 1
  • USB 3.0 x 2
  • Built-in Stereo Speakers x 2
  • Bluetooth 4.2
  • Built-in Microphone
  • Product Dimensions: 14.1” x 9.4” x 0.78”
  • Weight: 4.0 lbs.

it does have an SSD. im sure it is low quality though for this price range.

ohh that’s a good point. might be back to the drawing board…did your 9 year old laptop manage to play the legacy graphics ok?

are they expected to have cheaper laptops available with the APUs? or are those only for the higher end laptops?

( are they expected to have cheaper laptops available with the APUs? or are those only for the higher end laptops? )

yes they will have lower end skus that have weaker CPU cores but have the same gpu core counts they will have more 7000g/u sku’s VS 5000’s and 3000’s

the 7400 7500 7600 7700 and 7800 g and u’s if i remeber and a 7600 has the same gpu core counts as the 7800 but its a 6 core not a 12 core

a 7600u labtop should come in around 500 too 650 USD yes its twice as much as that older labtop u see but it will be 3 times faster on the GPU because it will not only have navi cores vs vega but it will also have DDR5 vs DDR4 and GPU cores need that bandwidth

CPU performance wont matter with a GPU like that so u just buy ur APU’s by how many GPU cores it has

yes it will be clocked lower but there is 3rd party software made by the public that will unlock power limits and can set GPU clock speeds called “ryzen controller”

I’m using a thinkpad e15 gen2 laptop with 16gig ram and integrated irix xe graphics. d2r doesn’t run well but it does run, even with the new graphics.

i still think irix Xe will out run the 3700u

I’m playing it flawlessly on a 8 year old ASUS ROG G750 that has a GTX 870M. It’s integrated but I run the game on the Nvidia.

that isnt integrated gpu nerd, that is dedicated GPU in a laptop…

integrated today means the CPU and GPU are in the same chip/SOC

back in the early too late 90’s ment it waz a cheap junk chip located on the MOBO and was there for just output and nothing more

It doesn’t matter to me. The game works with my 8 year old integrated graphics machine. The recommended Nvidea for the game is 4 years older than mine.

a GTX 870 M ie mobile isn’t a integrated GPU and a labtop with a decated GPU is gonna cost 2 to 3 times more then just a AMD APU pls stop troll, and the batt life on that thing well gaming is trash 30 min and dead im good

NV is trying too start making CPU’s so they can offer APU’s IE CPU’s with integrated graphics because the writing is on the wall, good thing they got blocked when they tried too buy ARM

also a 7800H will runs circles around ur 870M and still game for 4 to 6 hours so again im good also it isn’t ultra light again u know nothing ur talking about

Also, the integrated Vega graphics is going to use a portion of the 8gb ram for video memory. 2gb most likely, bringing your usable system ram below minimum specs.

he wont need more then 6gb to play with 2 GB devoted too the GPU cores

just dont have a bunch of stuff going on in the background

it’s more like 5 gig

Noone is disputing your experience but it’s not an equal comparison, you’re calling it integrated graphics but it’s not integrated graphics. Your laptop had a dedicated… separate… GPU, so by definition it’s not an integrated card.

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So I’ve learned. I was just trying to be helpful. I’m a noob when it comes to tech.

I could actually play the new graphics but it was not great quality due to my graphics card which was a GTX 650M. It was a dedicated graphics card though, which mattered.

Which is not supported so you are lucky it runs but if they patch the game and it breaks you are out of luck. They don’t have to fix it :frowning: Unsupported is unsupported.

I think they hinted at maybe adding integrated support at some point but I don’t know if that is real or will happen.

Yeah I don’t mind, I’ll deal with whatever happens. I didn’t buy it with the intention of playing games on it, it was just a temp lappy while I was moving buuuut here we are I suppose.

I run it just fine with my potato and hamster setup and cardboard box monitor

Mostly depends on the quality of potato (big idaho russet works well) and hamster for generating electricty via wheel running needs to be best of the best