I think i might be closer to 2k than 
still a newbie. I heard that a person who was there when they poured the concrete for the building when first line of code was written in is considered almost a intermediate player
For real there was like 4 months (combined) of 12h days, and a ton more time at random. And i still havent played a Javazon or Mosaic, and i dont have a singe Ist to my name 
I like to start from 0 most fun