I just made a Hustle in an MP and got back a gemmed MP. Really glad I didn’t try this on something like Mosaic or something with rarer runes.
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Whenever they get around to creating some new ladder only runewords (which hopefully won’t further ruin the game), the current ladder only runewords should then be able to be created in non-ladder.
It’s just a matter of waiting until they get around to it.
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gul isn’t even considered a HIGH RUNE, but makes the most broken item in the game.
lol, good thing you didn’t waste MAL GUL … LOL
guessing next season theyll bring mosaic to NL, hopefully
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No they should leave them as Ladder only.
Yes please. Allow us to make all runeword in NL. We are in 2024 soon. Stop restrictions
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I personally am tired of seasonal play. This game takes too long to get items as a casual player, and 4- or 6-month resets are ridiculous to me. The only thing to me that is important in the ladder or season of any game is the ranking. If that is what you care about then play ladder, but for me I paid for a full game and do not care about ranking. Why should I or anyone else who paid for a full game be limited on the items we can find while worrying about a reset coming if I am not worried where I stand in the community.
I loved Diablo 2 and had played it for a long time right from initial release in 2000. Once Resurrected was released I purchased it but quit playing soon as seasons was introduced. Make ladder about the ranking only, remove the ladder only restriction so you don’t punish the people who don’t care about rank. We all paid the same price for the game.
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and you got a full game. You just refuse to do the necessary steps to achieve everything.
By your logic, you should get every item and lvl 99 at will too, because you paid for it…
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In the old d2 Lod you could lose your char if not logged for 3 month. So many players who had a break in this game, return with fresh account and so ,start new char in ladder because of the ladder runewords only.
But. With D2r, you will never lose your chars if you don’t connect for anytime.
So many people, like me, enjoy to continu their adventure in no-ladder, with the chars they raised.
So by time, ladder will be more and more empty, i think. And we will get the same game in no-ladder as in ladder.
This is my thoughs. We can see this with 1.10 lad rw avaible in no-lad at the release, then 2.4 lad rw in no lad now, and for sure 2.6 rw in no-lad soon.
I hear you!!! And, totally agree. The ladder used to be a year long. But, kot & crew fell in love with botters and shortened it to 6 months, then 4 months, and now botters are pushing for 3 months …
Hopefully as microsoft takes out the trash, this will all change back to a more productive and enjoyable game instead of the RMT botfest it has become. It’s getting as trashy as DImmoral or D4!
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There is a compromise somewhere…
Cube recipes like runes, crafting, gems, ect stay open.
Certain uniques stay open, but some of the elite ones go Ladder only.
Pre D2R ladder only runewords, remain open, like Spirit.
Post D2R runewords, Ladder only.
Sunders, Ladder only.
New content moving forward, Ladder only.
The only way you get it, is trade for it at the end of Ladder or by, odd concept I know, PLAYING LADDER.
We need to drive the excitement back to Ladder resets, those are the most memorable times playing this game, not grinding your 4 year old sorc for the 15,000th Shako on NL.
No, thank you.
I like playing my old 4 years sorc and dropping my 20.000 shako
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Shako isnt a ladder only unique. So this should not impact you at all, chum.
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Thanks for the info. Didn’t know that…
Nowhere in my statement did I say I want items given to me by level 99. I liked to farm items, though was not much for trading since I did not have the patience for the ever-changing prices of things. Though item drop rates can be discussed but are not the subject of the OP’s post.
We are required to take part in a timed system that a lot of people do not enjoy, or feel is necessary to have access to the full game. I personally do not want to start over every season. I played way too much Diablo II back in the day just to have access to ladder content and my life suffered for it. I do not want that outcome again. This system is like the definition of insanity, you know doing the same thing over and over hoping to have for a different outcome. Now bear in mind I have limited seasonal play time in the game since I do not care for it but for me it would go something like this.
Oh look on my current character, I didn’t get enigma made this season, or find a Shako, or make a BOTD in the axe I want, nor did I even find that ethereal Berserker Axe. Oh, wait I didn’t find or get one the last season or the season before or before that and so on.
This is due to the fact that that system locks that content behind a timed wall that does not fit with the casual players lifestyle. Make it open to the non-ladder players. You know the ones who do not care about ranking at all. We can take all the time we want to play the game we paid for and leave the racers to themselves. You guys can fight for first place all you want.
The ladder system in Diablo II was originally the only way the devs could figure out how to combat the bot market screwing around with the economy, so they needed periodic resets. They incentivized the community to migrate to that system by offering them new items only not new content, at least not new content I knew of since even back then I was not pushing the limits. I have not even done 1 uber. If the new group of devs has not figured out how to combat that after 23 years, then that problem can’t be fixed.
Your fear is that if it is not locked behind the seasonal wall then the seasonal player base will be severely diminished. Let me prepose this. Would it not be a better challenge for the race if you guys didn’t have access to the locked items behind the season? If this was the case, do you think that you would not be saying something about paying for a full game and not having access to it? I and a lot of the non-seasonal players do not care about the excitement being driven back into ladder resets because that is not our kind of game. I would hope Blizzard or Microsoft would be smart enough to not lock new content behind a timed wall.
There is another fix to this, remember LAN parties? Make it so that single player is actually home network play and anyone on your home network can play together in the same game without restriction of seasonal play and have access to the full game. This would encompass solo self-found and also allow family members to play together.
I do not feel that I am a higher person for not playing ladder, but I do feel that the ladder players think they are above us. This in the end is a caste system.
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Here is an interesting thought: what if the ladders/seasons only lasted 1 week? Would botters still bother to bot? Would RMT sellers still have customers? (If not, Blizzard would obviously not consider such a thing 
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The season they added 4 character slots was the last one I played… and I did not play it for more than a week or so 
But you paid for it, didn’t you? for ALL content, including ALL items? But since you don’t want to do the task for seasonal items, your logic states that you just don’t want to work for it at all, because you paid for it.
How would this be a “better” challenge? And why are you talking about “you guys”? The “us vs them” mindset is telling a lot about you.
Nope, that’s a “you” mindset. But it doesn’t make sense to punish extra effort and reward the bare minimum players.
So you want the cheating mode back 
Again, this “us vs them” mindset is pretty disturbing.
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It is truly too bad that it is a “us vs them” discussion.
You make a lot of assumptions in your statement’s.
Did I say anywhere in my post that I wouldn’t be willing to farm items? You know the work! I just do not want to be forced to do it withing 4- to 6 months to have access to all the game contents except the boards! Ladder can keep that. It has no value to Non Ladder players. By God that mode is named Ladder because of the boards, it’s not named “Certain items found only here”. Again, like I said in a previous post, the devs way to combat bots was to make the ladder, periodically reset the economy. They had to entice people in somehow. After 23 years the problem still exists. They can’t fix it, or don’t want to by this point.
My question was playing devil’s advocate but because I said “you guys” that is a “us vs them” statement? It is just the way I worded it instead of saying “Ladder players”. This would have also been taken as a “us vs them” statement by you unfortunately and would still garner the same response because you are easily offended.
How is it punishing the “Ladder Players”? You would still be able to farm as fast as you can and make the boards? Try to stay on top. Nothing would be taken away from you. Us “Non Ladder Players” are still putting in the work, just at our pace, not yours.
I recognize your slight smile in the statement. Unfortunately, I do believe that this is another assumption, and that anyone would use it to cheat. What they do while in this mode is up to them. I personally never even ran maphack. Can you say that? Anyways
the fix I suggested would have nothing to do with affecting your game. Other that possibly reducing player base.
Your right. This is a “us vs them” situation, and like I said was not started by us. People like me had a grievance and spoke up. People like you said don’t take that away from us because we deserve it more because Ladder play has more value than Non Ladder.
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Odin, why would it personally bother you so much if it was all available to everyone regardless of Ladder or not? I believe your answer would be of a “us vs them” variety. People like you were the first ones to have made this that kind of situation. Not us. We just pointed out what we thought was unfair. Utilized the first amendment. You know the rights of the people’s voices in the minority to be heard or could we be a majority now, is that what scares you? We floated a thought to the either seeking out like minded individuals. But people like you pinched your nose and turned your head from it, because of whatever reason you can come up with to justify it. So yes, this is a US VS THEM conversation. Don’t throw that around like it is an insult or an offensive maneuver you think will end the conversation.
If you noticed I never took value away from the Ladder players. I never said you should not have access to all game contents. I just proposed a question playing devil’s advocate hoping for you to possibly see it from another perspective. As stated, I see why ladder was made and why the incentives were placed. I have just stated I do not value the race to 99 or the boards.
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You left out the rewarding part. Ladder players have to start from 0 already, while non ladder can go on with full equipment.
Do I really have to explain why your suggestion would punish the extra effort of ladder players compared to NL players?
It is a you thing. You try to fit people into boxes and you don’t even let them know which ones you put them.
All I did was state the obvious.
Ladder players get rewarded with items for the extra effort, so starting from 0 gets an upside. It’s an incentive to play ladder beside the race that is over in 2-4 days. And only because you paid for the game doesn’t mean that you are entitled to get everything without respecting the games design.
My personal opinion is that the game will be dead if you remove ladder and the incentive to play ladder. Non ladder is already a very empty and sad mode and only good for PvP.
This opinion is based on the player numbers in any arpg on ladder/season starts vs numbers after the hot phase.
I get that you are upset with the game, because you can’t play it like it should be played. But if blizzard caters to people like you, the game will be dead within months.
You know guys … some thoughts to consider …
Microsoft just bought out blizz and co. … so there is major transition going on … moving runewords to NL in one game of the ones they own is a very low priority at this time … the old management isn’t worried about much as they are on the way out … the new management is just taking over and must evaluate many, many things regarding all of their games … plus the holiday season is here … don’t expect much to get done to at least the new year.
Common sense … your individual desires have no effect on this transition period … use your brain …
I am sure there is a lot going on behind the scenes and moving 5 or 6 runewords to NL in one game is not exactly high on the priority list … think about it.